Tom93R1

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If there cant be another sevenstock, how about REPUstock?
Seriously though, there are alot of people who would feel something definately missing from their september without that pilgrimage to Irvine. I understand all the work you and the SoCal 7's put into the event, and I can understand how it could burn you out. I just hope Mazda can realize this and knows what it means to all us enthusiasts. If they truely understood, I am sure they would be willing to help out alot more than they have in the past.

dvls-7

Ive always wanted to make it out for SS, last year was the closest I ever came to going but I missed out. It is a shame that you have to ask if there should be another one. Based on the results and attendance of last years I figured it was an automatic for this year.
Ive seen a few people in this thread make reference to the fact that you and the rest of the socal crew are the ones mainly responsible for SS. I also applaud all of your time and efforts, but I was lead to believe that Mazda already makes contributions in more ways other than $$$. If this is incorrect please let me know.
Some of the suggestions made sound very good...charging for the event, I know I wouldn't mind paying an entrance fee. Hope you guys can come up with a solution that will work out for everyone.

Rx7carl

YES! Charge $ if you have to. Hire help. hire a bigger place. Whatever it takes to make it easier for you. People travelling 3000 miles just to come see this wont whine about paying a few $ to get in. Besides, maybe by SS10 I'll have something worth driving to the event.

GOTPAM?

Um yes. Why, i've never attended one. Simply because i never had a 7 to bring but i've got a big project that i've just ventured into that i'd love to bring to sevenstock. Not to mention i'd feel unuiqe with my project car there. I've wanted to go for the last 3 years the last 2 years i was in the area but couldnt get away from the weddings i was attending (not a part of phew). If its really that big, you know las vegas really isnt that far away. Theres tons of hotels that have convention centers, not to mention there always looking for people to make them money. So charge fees, i wouldnt care. Not to mention its probally easier for the international people to fly there. Not to mention think of the las vegas strip just humming with the rotarys.

dvls-7

I agree with the Las Vegas idea. I know it takes away from the Mazda facility, but vegas will definetly accomodate the crowd. The supra guys have their big event out there every year, maybe finding out from someone involved with that event to get some info. Again just ideas and suggestions.

DCrosby

If it were in Vegas, the Nevada Club would have to do it, since Bern has a hard enough time to make it to all the meetings mazda holds before the event...

Unfortunately the Nevada / Vegas club is a fraction of the size of the Socal Club.... what's with that anyway !? Are People from Vegas not rotary friendly !?

Bern

Not only that... but who would take all of the cool Mazda race cars to vegas... I'll tell you there is no money to move cars from the R&D center to another venue. Insurance, transportation, employee time, etc... what about all of the cool old schools from So-Cal. They're not going to trek across the desert 5 hours. Vegas is cool for an event, just not SevenStock!

-Bern

Siraniko

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and driving on stiff konis & fumes is not easy.

ROTORhead93

Its been said already, but instead of Mazda R & D, why not Laguna Seca. Fan lap anyone??

RCCAZ 1

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Bern, Bro, Rotor-Daddy:

My wife for one would be VERY pleased if SS7 were the last. For at least two or three weeks leading up to the event I'm constantly bombarded by calls and details surrounding the I-10 Caravan from Arizona into Irvine. But, she also knows how much I enjoy going each year and how much it would be missed by YOURS TRULY if it never happened again.

What about possibly holding it at California Speedway the Friday before next year's JGTC event? Heck, there was close to 100 rotaries at JGTC last December in the SoCal RX club corral alone. Even if it were held at R&D the weekend before JGTC you might pull some of us over there for the entire week. Just something to think about.

Either way, I agree with what David Crosby said earlier in the thread. You can not comprehend how much we in the rotary community appreciate what you and this event have done for us. I know that you and the other SoCal brothers are tired, and understandably so. If we can help lighten the load in anyway, please let me know. I also agree that Mazda USA needs to take a more active role in making this event a yearly happening. Calvin and his staff at R&D can only do so much. More help needs to come from the TOP!

Tim

gen3rx7

Mazda needs to continue and even increase its support for the following reason:

They are currently selling RX-8's and are planning on a return of the 7 in 2006.

It makes good business sense to host the largest rotary event in the world in Mazda's own back yard, to generate sales interest. Because of the publicity the show generates, it reaches potential customers everywhere.

Thanks to Bern and the SoCal club for making this happen for the first 7 years!

Bern

again... who would take all of the cool Mazda race cars to Laguna... I'll tell you there is no money to move cars from the R&D center to another venue. Insurance, transportation, employee time, etc... what about all of the cool old schools from So-Cal. They're not going to trek north 5 hours. Laguna is cool for an event, but just not SevenStock!

Oh yea... all the organizers are from So-Cal too...

Look for another Mazda type event, maybe later this year, or next... at Laguna.... I'm working on it.

-Bern

d0 Luck

gen3rx7, there will be no 2006 rx-7.

gen3rx7

Oh well,

They still are selling 8's and need to promote rotary power....

zoom44

but there will be a RX-7 to be seen in 2006.

Bern

Who cares about a new 7, on this SevenStock thread! Please use another forum for this discussion... thanks guys!

-Bern

scotty305

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First off: I have been a rotary fan since I first heard about the Wankel engine in my high school auto shop class. I didn't buy a rotary until recently. I attended Sevenstock #7, and it was a lot of fun, thanks a ton for putting it on. I've helped organize events with attendance in the 100-300 person range, and it's not an easy task. My group charged entry fees.

That said, I agree with Mazda's current choice. They already have the Star Mazda series, the Mazdaspeed Competition program, and MUCH more factory support for racers than any other manufacturer that I know of. To me, racing is more important than car shows; it improves the breed.

I'm not trying to discount SevenStock here, it's a great car show, truly one of a kind. But cars are meant to be driven, not sit in a lot on display. If Mazda was to support one thing and drop the other, I'd have to choose Sevenstock to be dropped, and Star Mazda and the Mazdaspeed program to be supported.

We should organize some sort of event where hundreds of rotary owners attend a Star Mazda race, or hold a rotary-only autocross event or race of some sort. Charge entry fees and the whole thing.

-s-

evalutionr

Yes, there should another sevenstock so i could finally bring my TII

Jesuscookies

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Bern,

you underestimate the money thing. People will pay for an event like this.

MichaelB145

Last year me and 4 of my fellow rotary friends drove from Colorado to Indaina to our first ever Rotary meet. We drove about 15 hours in nothing but rain...we got there and it was still raining. But guess what...even though we only got to spend maybe an hour looking at cars in the rain...it was the best experience imagable. I could only wonder what seven stock was like. I was looking forward to clearer roads, traveling with a caravan of rotorys. Please, Please, Please.....somebody take control of this! Charge more money....something....Can't a production company take this event over such as NOPI? Please don't take this event away that so many people look forward to for the entire year!

Mike B

Sweeper RX7

Being at SevenStock is a dream of my life.
You can throw all the other car shows out of the window, SevenStock is the ultimate for me.
You can give me a carshow for Exotics and F1 cars, even offer me a ride in a F1 car, but I will still go SevenStock.
Enough reason?

Thats my love for rotary engines, I just hope I can get there some year, no matter what I want to be there, see all the generations, admire the FD's.
Hear the rotary sound from the rotary engines.
All in all, this carshow is unique, it is unique from all other shows.
It is not just a few europeans and australlians that loves this, everytime I watch the video of 8 minutes from 7 stock I get thrilled.
So does other rotary lovers... Cutting the string to this would be a major set back.

MarkPerez

Hey Bernie, carl has a point, why not charge a one time fee ? it makes sense.
Say $20.00 dollors for adults, $10.00 dollors or even free for kids. use the whrist
band type jobs. does a entrance fee fall into another type of event to the city of ervine? meaning sercurity, taxes, and what not for public events. i would think the event being roped off if a entrance charge is in effect. and i can't really see
it roped off either. thats a tough one. getting out of hand and rocketting away from the idea of the whole BBQ get-togethers. maybe by september mazda will have released the twin turbo rx8's. I look forward to SS8 and i'll help out if you
need it.

RX-Heven

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I'd dig up graves and rob the dead to scrape up enough money if I had to.

Think of a small payment as a **** filter. With some of the hoodlums there last year, they may not go if they had to fork out 10-20 bucks.

Fatty_FC3S

Or maybe charge by the car, not by the person. With the layout of the mazda facility, i think it would be hard to keep people from "sneaking" in, but its easy if you charge by the car.

I sure would like to see another sevenstock, but i can also understand the stress that people who organize the event are under. ESPECIALLY if mazda is only vaguely supportive of them!

Bern

Guys,
Thanks for the input!!

We are starting to look into getting another SS together.... hopefully I will have some good news for you all soon.... I'll probably be asking for donations.... let's see how many really "have-their-money-where-their-mouth-is"... in the past, we've asked for a few $'s and one or two again, only one or two ponied up a penny! It's all talk until you all step up! Remember, we are in this together.

Keep the faith... SS-8 might be around the corner!

-Bern