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Old 10-20-09, 07:47 PM
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I never realized how much higher the 3rd gen intake sits than the 2nd gen intake. Any suggestions on making my hood fit? Anyone run into this problem? Any certain hood scoops I should keep my eye out for?
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cut it and slap it on!
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Originally Posted by rotorholic
Looking good, When you testing at the racetrack?
Well, I'm in the midwest so we don't have open racing year round. So, probably not until Spring.

I kinda need a tune up first.

I wonder what tech will say when they realize I have no roll bar/cage?
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito
sweet!!!
Thanks ITO...

FYI; I'm running your ports
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Got the same hood problem with the 20B FB I'm working on. It allllllllmost fits without any modification. We're probably going to get some kind of fiberglass cowl and have it worked in.
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Car looks amazing, very clean i like it
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looking and sounding very good.
Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
Well, I'm in the midwest so we don't have open racing year round. So, probably not until Spring.

I kinda need a tune up first.

I wonder what tech will say when they realize I have no roll bar/cage?
sounds like you have a few months to stick a cage in that bitch then ...
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Originally Posted by diabolical1

sounds like you have a few months to stick a cage in that bitch then ...
Hmm, maybe........

What's a 10 point going for these days? I need someone to sponsor me for a free cage
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Call S&W race cars. They have a nice cage for your car. Notched, measured, bent and ready to weld-in.
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SSIIIICKKK nice project mengh
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Hey Eric, thought you might be interested in knowing that El Grillete ran a new PB of 4.98@140 in the 1/8 this weekend with a 1.20 60ft.

Good luck with your project...

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^^^ I thought he ran a 28" tire? That looks like a 26" tire.....

Impressive!
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^ that pic is over 1 yr old.. Maybe he's running a taller tyre now?
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either way, it's a beautiful automobile
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this is very impressive!

what kind of power are you expecting/hoping for?
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Originally Posted by Chaotic_FC
this is very impressive!

what kind of power are you expecting/hoping for?
I would be happy with 500hp. Anything more is just a bonus.
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
I would be happy with 500hp. Anything more is just a bonus.
sorry if this has already been mentioned but what kind of porting are you running? also how much fuel can your system support?
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Originally Posted by Chaotic_FC
sorry if this has already been mentioned but what kind of porting are you running? also how much fuel can your system support?
Running the Large JUDGE ITO street port. 8 1680cc injectors and two 044 pumps. Should be good for atleast 500 ponies
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i think you need to throw on a third 044, it seems like the limiting part of the equation with e85.

otherwise its awesome!!
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wow...that's very clean setup.
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Originally Posted by Chaotic_FC
i think you need to throw on a third 044, it seems like the limiting part of the equation with e85.

otherwise its awesome!!
Enzo's brother (TurboR1) runs two 044's with E85 and made over 700whp with his......
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If you only make 500, i'm going to drive out to st louis and kick you in the nuts.
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Originally Posted by zinx
If you only make 500, i'm going to drive out to st louis and kick you in the nuts.
Promise?
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bosch 044 pumps are rated at 200lph at 72.5 psi. 43.5 psi base and 29 psi of boost. Most injectors' flow rates are measured at 43.5 psi base pressure.

400lph=6666.7 cc/min

injector capacity=8*1680cc/min=13440cc/min of injector

max duty cycle without seeing fuel pressure drop=6666.7/13440=49.6%

Using internal energies, you need 1.53 as much ethanol to produce same internal energy as gasoline. So 4357.32 cc/min of gasoline.

4357.32*.8/(BSFC*10.5)=estimated max flywheel hp, BSFC=.65 (injector.com lists this at .6-.7 for rotary engines)
max fwhp=510.75hp

If you are running <29psi of boost you will be able to have a higher maximum hp because the pumps flow more at lower boost.

How much boost were you planning on running?
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Originally Posted by wackaloo13
bosch 044 pumps are rated at 200lph at 72.5 psi. 43.5 psi base and 29 psi of boost. Most injectors' flow rates are measured at 43.5 psi base pressure.

400lph=6666.7 cc/min

injector capacity=8*1680cc/min=13440cc/min of injector

max duty cycle without seeing fuel pressure drop=6666.7/13440=49.6%

Using internal energies, you need 1.53 as much ethanol to produce same internal energy as gasoline. So 4357.32 cc/min of gasoline.

4357.32*.8/(BSFC*10.5)=estimated max flywheel hp, BSFC=.65 (injector.com lists this at .6-.7 for rotary engines)
max fwhp=510.75hp

If you are running <29psi of boost you will be able to have a higher maximum hp because the pumps flow more at lower boost.

How much boost were you planning on running?
I'm trying to concentrate more on power than PSI. But, I imagine 33-35 psi will do the trick.

The below quotes are what convinced me to go with dual 044's.


Originally Posted by enzo250
Dual Bosch 044's is the way to go...
Originally Posted by enzo250
TurboR1's Fuel Setup consists of:

2 --- Bosch 044's Pumps
1 --- Aeromotive Reg & Pro Filter
8 --- 160lb Injectors


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