launching with et streets with a STOCK diff
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launching with et streets with a STOCK diff
i know most people who use et streets have a turbo2 diff or a kaaz etc etc, but i also know some people use the stock diff for a short while, so my question how do i avoid breaking my diff while launching on et streets.... do i drop the pressure in the tire even more so absorbs more of the shock? attempt to slip out my 6puck clutch?? if any1 has any pointers lemme know i have a turbo2 diff in my backyard but iam not ready finicially 2 put it in the way i want with gears etc...
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The only thing that will break your stock diff is wheel hop (and over 600rwhp) and you won't get it with et streets. Keep them at around 15lbs of air and go have fun!
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got to dissagree with you Ernie, launching like a nutter will crack your diff casing with as little as 350rwhp. I've seen several diffs spat out of 3rd Gens at the strip. Without a diff brace, launch kit etc, you can trash a stock diff if you try hard enough. Like Ernie said though, wheel hop is the killer, not torque. Progressive power delivery and well supported diff makes for happy days
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Originally Posted by ErnieT
The only thing that will break your stock diff is wheel hop (and over 600rwhp) and you won't get it with et streets. Keep them at around 15lbs of air and go have fun!
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actually, more tire pressure will keep you from breaking it. That way, it'll allow the tire to slip a little before getting full traction. less tire pressure will hook and launch forward w/o any slip. you really just have to play around the tire pressure to get your ideal launch. Me personally, I preload the drivetrain so that it doesn't get the shock before launch.
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Originally Posted by mattmaclennan
I've seen several diffs spat out of 3rd Gens at the strip. Without a diff brace, launch kit etc,
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Originally Posted by pluto
actually, more tire pressure will keep you from breaking it. That way, it'll allow the tire to slip a little before getting full traction. less tire pressure will hook and launch forward w/o any slip. you really just have to play around the tire pressure to get your ideal launch. Me personally, I preload the drivetrain so that it doesn't get the shock before launch.
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Originally Posted by showoff
ive heard of people using the ebrake to pre-load the drivetrain is this the method you use?
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Originally Posted by 1wide7
i ran et streets at 17 psi with the stock diff launching around 4.5 -5k and it didnt break anythig
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Yep. With anti-lag and N2O, i get low 1.40's 60' time launching at 6krpm. Less broken parts when launching at lower rpm.
Originally Posted by showoff
ive heard of people using the ebrake to pre-load the drivetrain is this the method you use?
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Yep. With anti-lag and N2O, i get low 1.40's 60' time launching at 6krpm. Less broken parts when launching at lower rpm.
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Originally Posted by pluto
actually, more tire pressure will keep you from breaking it. That way, it'll allow the tire to slip a little before getting full traction. less tire pressure will hook and launch forward w/o any slip. you really just have to play around the tire pressure to get your ideal launch. Me personally, I preload the drivetrain so that it doesn't get the shock before launch.
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Originally Posted by Dan Schechter
He is absolutely right! Don't lower your tire pressure to save drivetrain parts, it's the exact opposite. You need to run at least 16psi, if not more! I cracked my stock diff with 350whp in my red car. The worm gears in the stock diff expand on launch and splits your case into 4-5 parts, trust me......I've been there, and getting another case could be costly. Raising tire pressure will give you more tire slip off the line, and preloading like some of the guys are talking about is also a great idea. You want your tires to slip off the line because if you have a six-puck, your clutch won't be doing any slipping, and something's got to slip. Also, do a small burnout, and not a large one. You don't want to get the tires too hot. Mickey Thompson recomends a little bit of smoke, and thats it. Those big-smokin' burnouts are great for show, but will only lead to broken drivetrain parts, and actually not work as well according to M/T. Good luck !
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Originally Posted by showoff
thanx dan, ill start the tires out at 20psi and work my way down but not lower then 16psi.. 1last question about pre-loading the drivetrain...(ebrake method) basically i pull up the ebrake,put the car in gear, rev-up 2 set rpm, and begin to slip out the clutch a little until i feel the car squat a little, and then when it time 2 launch just drop the ebrake and clutch????(pluto, dan) need your input since you use these methods
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ive been looking into 1 and will probably get 1 next week unfortantly the race is this weekend so i need 2 get a feel for the ebrake method for now
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Originally Posted by showoff
ive been looking into 1 and will probably get 1 next week unfortantly the race is this weekend so i need 2 get a feel for the ebrake method for now
make any sense?
I couldn't imagine using a e-brake........... so much is going on plus having to remember to drop the e-brake
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Originally Posted by LUPE
Yeah, a linelock is the professional way to load up/pre-stage. The best method is using a pressure gauge and find the right pressure to pre-stage with. A few feet before the beam, press your brake down around half way and hit the linelock. This will lock up the brakes just enough that your tires will move but will keep the car underload......
make any sense?
I couldn't imagine using a e-brake........... so much is going on plus having to remember to drop the e-brake
make any sense?
I couldn't imagine using a e-brake........... so much is going on plus having to remember to drop the e-brake
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I sometimes use the e-brake but I usually just let the first person stage before I stage so that I can slowly creep the car to the 2nd light while it is still moving forward and by the time it is ready to launch, i'm already pre loading the drivetrain and clutch pre-engaged.
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yea linelock is the way to go.. and the e-brake method seems a lil involved for a person with only 2hands lol.. thats why iam waiting on pluto and dan to chime in.. but for this weekend atleast thats my only option
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Originally Posted by pluto
I sometimes use the e-brake but I usually just let the first person stage before I stage so that I can slowly creep the car to the 2nd light while it is still moving forward and by the time it is ready to launch, i'm already pre loading the drivetrain and clutch pre-engaged.
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I have been launchin my car for 2 years on the stocker, it finally let go at the track last week. I usually slip the clutch a little at about 6k or so and get 1.7 1.8 60's. I wanted a better 60 so I dropped it at 6 or 7 and crunch....................
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