WaachBack

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Well since I'm wrong, why don't you correct me with some facts. Because the only LS1 FDs that I know of who run 10s are either fully built n/a or are turbo.

KKMpunkrock2011

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maybe not 15k, but 7-8k for sure, a stock ls1 swap is 5 grand minimum and it'll run a 12 flat, my buddy here in town has a few time slips an 3 different ls1 FDs all with about the same power and not one broke a 12 and he's a pretty good driver, his 1jz FC has ran mid tens with a 1.6 sec 60, so to break tens you'll need closer to 7 or 8k,
my .02

WaachBack

iTrader: (21)

An LS1 swap into an Fd wit the Hinson kit will cost you anywhere from 5-8k dependent heavily on how much you got the motor for. You would then have to upgrade your diff, clutch, flywheel, and axles which would be 2k+. A turbo kit, fuel system, ecu, and tuning could easily amount to 5k. If you went all motor, it might even cost more then that. I really don't see how my statement was inaccurate.

Viking War Hammer

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Guys are running 10 flat with cam only in 3,300+ lb camaro's. Put that in a lighter RX7 and you're running 9.80's. Add a $200 kit and you're running deep 9's.

WaachBack

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With a cam and a 200 shot of NOS MAYBE. I don't know who is telling you stuff like this but if you need more proof, go read up on LS1tech.com. I've been a member there for quite some time now.

I'm, sorry but you are very misinformed...

Viking War Hammer

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Damn internet racers.

I give up.

djseven

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A cam only car is going to make what 400rwhp max out of a basic $3k used LS1 setup, we arent talking $6k LS6s, etc. That wont put a 3300lb camaro no where near a 10 flat. I dont dislike the LS1 swap idea, but I could put a fd in the 11s for half of what it would cost to even complete a stock LS1 swap or mildly modded. I dont claim to know a ton about the piston world though I have some experience, but no way is a cam only LS1 going ten flat unless they are picking up another 250rwhp with that cam.

Also, a "$200.00" kit is an accident waiting to happen. If you think the guys running 9s are really using some cheap kit without window switches, bottle warmers, and everything else to protect their $5-10K engines you are crazy.

Viking War Hammer

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texas speed has the record for stock bottom end cam only ls1 at 9.82

hp means jack in drag racing

Any car not built under a tree in a backyard by an idiot making less per hour than YOU won't run/is cheating and is a professional race car.

djseven

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I can play that game, Enzo and his brother went 10.6 on a stock 2 rotor Soo many details left unmentioned.

Viking War Hammer

iTrader: (8)

All they had was -
- Magic Stick 4 Camshaft
- 92mm Ported Intake
- P.T.M. 95mm Throttle Body
- Texas Speed 100mm MAF
- 1 7/8" KOOKS Headers

djseven

iTrader: (56)

A quick search reveals that is $4k in mods alone, knowing that the car probably has some other stuff done. Still more impressive than I thought but still not exactly what you make it out to be either. Definitely not cam only, as it clearly says that cam is good for around 80hp which will no way in the world have a stock ls1 running 10 flats, nor 10s for that matter.

Viking War Hammer

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Man, you need to get out more.

another guy, Smokin01ta on ls1tech runs 10.21@132 (1.38 short time), 01 T/A, M6, Spec4, 4.56, TRex, -1100

good friend of mine here in stl , Derick runs 10.857 @ 123.53 w/ 1.46 sixty foot (+46DA, 3310lbs, 403/355 unlocked)

Dericks car, like I said........ alot more to it than hp



http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...1101run3-1.flv

WaachBack

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You need to do more research and get you facts straight.

It's common knowledge that stock FD LS1s run high 11's or low 12's.

turboR1

Hey what was unmentioned ? no secrets here.. stock motor unported + gt35r t3 Kit + Autronic + Enzo Tuning.. Everything else in the car was bone stock with exception for the obvious to support 500rwhp bigger injectors, small intercooler and fuel pump and Et streets. Ok ok you got me i forget to mention the sparco steering wheel and shift **** lol Many people have seen my car.


and any 3300 lb car is going to need 500+rwhp to run 10 flat. unless its cutting 1.20 60's maybe.

Did someone say Hp means nothing in drag racing ?

KKMpunkrock2011

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in the HP department just for arguments sake, my buddy has an MS6 cam in his LS1 SS along with a ported TB and headers running dumps and he put down 440 at the wheels, just saying, oh and that's on a 6 spd

Viking War Hammer

iTrader: (8)

and they'll keep running twelves without a proper suspension and transmission...

set the suspension up and toss in a auto w/stall and see what happens

WaachBack

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If you want to play like that...

An internet racer doesn't build, tune, and race their own motor.

However, an Internet racer would say that a stock LS1 Rx7 with only a cam would run flat 10s.

Viking War Hammer

iTrader: (8)

in one ear and out the other?

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...2&postcount=33

Viking War Hammer

iTrader: (8)

that would explain your high 11 second missle..........

WaachBack

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If you are calling 11 seconds on the stock turbos slow, you really must be an "internet racer"...

sk8world

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Dericks car, like I said........ alot more to it than hp



http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...1101run3-1.flv[/QUOTE]


Sick wheel stand.... Thats the ticket, a package deal. Takes more than power to go fast.
Why the debate on v8's again???? I just dont get it.... Run whatever you like. But dont go bashing on the other. Makes no sense.

Viking War Hammer

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I wouldn't call it slow, I would call it ordinarilly slow. We're talking bolt-on NEON numbers now.

Viking War Hammer

iTrader: (8)

Sick wheel stand.... Thats the ticket, a package deal. Takes more than power to go fast.
Why the debate on v8's again???? I just dont get it.... Run whatever you like. But dont go bashing on the other. Makes no sense.[/QUOTE]

I like both, but to say a LS1 is only good for 12's is absurd.

WaachBack

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No one is debating that horse power is all that matters in drag racing every drag racer knows that there are other thing that matter as well.

However, contrary to what viking said, horse power does play a big factor in it.

WaachBack

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Nice one...

/golfclap