TGK

I was wondering if anyone had any tips on how to do a burnout. Sorry if this seems stupid, but I've only been driving a stick for about two weeks now. I can get the tires to spin for a bit by just revving it up and dropping the clutch, but I want to learn how to hold the car in place with the rear tires spinning.

If it matters, '88 RX-7 GXL.

rosey

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Side-step the clutch...try to twist your left foot so you can hover part of it over the brake while pushing in the clutch. Rev to 4-5K dump clutch/floor throttle, then immediately press the brake and hold it just hard enough to keep the car from moving while still allowing the tires to spin.

Keep trying, you'll get it.

RE-Amemiya

If you've only been driving manual for 2 weeks why do you want to learn how to do a burnout already. Better spend your time actually driving.

My .02

NoviceRotaryTech.

I got you beat.

Ive done donuts with my `89 RX7 GTU (n/a) (no LSD) on dry pavement.
Its a bit tricky but I did it.
1st off, I had new tires on the front.

I would start off then go in a circle. Once my RPMs got around 4k Id floor it and turn harder.
I could feel the back end whip around. If it was a really good burnout Id be able to quick turn the wheels the other way while still in the burnout.

But some times when I start, the car just goes around in a big circle and I can hear the front tires slipping.

Valkyrie

You'd need a line locker (a special device that basically works like a parking brake for JUST for front brakes) unless you had about twice the power your car has, plus really crappy tires.

He isn't even asking how to do donuts...

bean13

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keep trying until you beat your car into the ground and blow up the engine...practice makes perfect. Rx-7's are not drag cars, they are road race cars meant for handling. Rotaries are known for lacking torque, what is needed to turn the tires over, and are not intended to do cool burnouts infront of the high school. Independant rear supensions don't handle that either, they have inherant wheel hop issues and are weaker than a comperable solid axle. Learn to go around a corner like the car is meant to and get a 5.0 mustang for burnouts.

Learn how to really drive a manual transmission first, attend an SCCA or local club racing school or High Performance Driving Event (HPDE). 90% of the manual driving population does not know the proper way to use a manual, only how to shift it gear to gear, not truly use it.

Just my 2 cents, tell me to pound sand if you wish.

SLOASFK

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line-loc.

mannyvidal

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i dony know but my car sure is a drag car

SLOASFK

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sure is. still got a rotary in that beast?

Dom_C

n/a's arn't that great for doing a "power brake" they just don't have much torque. A t2 on the other hand does a great power brake. All the people bitching saying that rx7's arn't drag cars or have no torque most likely have a stock or beat n/a. . a healthy turbo rx7 will have plenty of power to do a burnout. .. . Bring up the revs 6-7k and drop the clutch, then hit the brake with your left foot immediatly, but not too hard as to stop the rear tires but just enough. This will last for a few seconds with an n/a then it will start to bog down due to the lack of torque. Your car should do a pretty badass doughnut though, do pretty much the same thing, start turning, then wind it up and dump the clutch, the *** end will come around real quik.

Siraniko

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Install a line-lock.

bean13

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uh, hello!!! Iff you have to bring the rpm's up to redline to get it to do it then teh car is telling you something. A peice of crap neon will do that at 7k too. No offense to the drag racers, but you did alot to teh car to get it to do that correct! Can't take a bone stock Rx-7 to the strip, run it repeatedly, and win like you can an showroom stock class in SCCA now can you....

SLOASFK

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well, FDs run mid-high 13s stock...That's good enough to beat most stock cars.

mannyvidal

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sure do its 13b pport all motor 9.97 @ 132 mph 1.32 60' built by the best rotary tech in the world JESUS " KILO" PADILLA

on the burn out part its about the driver knowing how to do a stand still burout cause on my daily driver i can do them all day remember its not the size of the hook its the way you wiggle your worm , o i forgot i do know i little bit of road racing

Dom_C

with a n/a that's what you have to do . .With a turbo you don't have to bring the revs up nearly that high. When my t2 was close to stock, once the wheels were spinning i'd be able to feather the throttle around 3500-4000 rpm and keep them spinning no problem. With a hybrid turbo and some other goodies I was able to do that in second gear with 275's on the back. My setup now is a half bridge, microtech and a whole bunch of other fun stuff. I'm not saying by any means that this kid should go out and beat his car, it wont really hurt the car much if he's doing it correctly. Maybe a little premature wear and what not but nothing significant unless he's stupid about it. And you don't have to preach to me about the rx7's natural handling ability, i'm well aware and that is one of the reasons I own the car. I also like having alot of power and enjoy drag racing, it's nice to own a well balanced car => power and finese(sp).

Unholy FD3S

agreed

johnrxt2

practice in the rain, u may be able to learn at least. youre car does not have a lot of power though, dont break it

bean13

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johnrxt2 is a wise man

sleeper7

your not in "the fast and the furious" you cant learn to drive a stick do a burnout and learn to drift all in a matter of weeks.. you need to get ya a mentor. someone that knows how to do these things and can show you little by little.. otherwise you will blow your motor/trans or break something.. i thought i knew it all with a s14 i built.. when i blew the motor and cracked the rear end show boatin for my friends and threw the 10,000 i spent on her down the ******* i realized you have to have patience in learning the fun things..
learn how to drive your car with out hurting her for a while.. then go from there..

JP's 93 fd

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I have an fd, and only burned out in the rain or on wet pavements. I had a little trouble on dry ground. I would rev it up to like 5000rpm, let the clutch out the then push the brake and floor it but it the rpm just went down. also if your pressing on the brake during a stand still burn out, doesn't the some pressure go the rear brakes. Line lock is new to me but not sure if it would really benefit me.

bean13

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you have to ease up on the brake until the car just begins to move then push it back down a hair to keep it from moving forward, if your car can even do it in the first place. Why wouldnt the pedel actuate the rear brakes, I dont get your question. Of coures the pecel does, and that is one of the reasons this is so hard on the car, you have to overcome the force of the rear brakes. And at 5k, that is a lot of force that the brakes are trying to overcome which transfers all the way up the drivetrain. I think you are pushing the brake to much, even though I don't reccomend this peronally. You can always tell when a car has been abused......

JP's 93 fd

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yeah, i think i was pressing on the brake to hard. I guess my rear brakes were putting to much pressure and wouldn't let it spin.

justint5387

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Nothing offensive, what is your idea of the proper way of using a manual?

classicauto

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I've found in the TII that its tough to do long standing burnouts.

A little peel and then some smoke.......then she starts to roll ahead in the burnout box.

I attribute the problem to the fact that the brake booster doesn't get any vac when doing a burnout (because the car is in or near boost) and thusly you've only got standard braking power.

killam

uh, hello!!! the rotary engine is made to be able to withstand redlines
ive owned a 2gen N/A and currently own a 1gen gs and i have and had no problem preforming brake stands or w/e

BTW i think the 2gen had a sticker on the visor saying you could redline for almost 3mins or something like that



Just curious do you own a RX7 bean13?