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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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13B Headers for "All Motor" Drag Racing

Who makes a good set of 13B Headers for a "All Motor" Drag Race Application?

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Albert...

All motors are different ..With relation to the port ..hp curve etc..
Do you know the cheap spray paint trick?
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Specifically looking for 13B Headers for a P-Port Application

OK maybe I was not specific in my original post so I'll narrow down my question to Headers for a P-Port Application.

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Goopy
Albert...

All motors are different ..With relation to the port ..hp curve etc..
Do you know the cheap spray paint trick?
Trying to increase your post #'s? What a worthless post. WHen I automatically think "All Motor" I think big *** bridge or P-Port....obviously he wants someone he can discuss this with for some custom work. Porting specs discussed then....and not before.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rotaryengineering
OK maybe I was not specific in my original post so I'll narrow down my question to Headers for a P-Port Application.

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try a regular RB header if it can clear your intake tubes.. then extend the primaries say 10" from the end of the straight tubes.. You may have to cut with a saw-sall or somehting.. Spray some cheap spray paint on the tubes then where the paint stops pealing you know you need to collect both pipes. ..I would use a 5" 3 tube to a Borla XR1.. .. On all headers make sure ou take a small grinder to the inlet tube of the header where it connects with the housing port. The tube is rairly centered right and will always benefit from a funnel type. .Hopfuly i did not loose you.

Kilo has something similar but i am sure there is "brega" in it.
Another car that has a nice setup is Wl Wao from PR its a Datsun 1200 that runs 9.8..tuned by Sarito..

Kilo's header is suprisingly shorter and has a smaller colecter tube...i would guess 2.5... I always thought that small dia tubing would choke the engine or cause backfire but kilo has 9.8 @ 2150 LBS reasons why it works.

Try calling MAyol Speed Shop in Manati Puerto Rico @ 787-884-9044...
If he cant get it he can perhaps send you to the right people Cronopio, Vivo etc.

Or maybe even Kilo Racing .

Dios Te bendiga!!
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rotaryengineering
Who makes a good set of 13B Headers for a "All Motor" Drag Race Application?

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If you want a compromise header then buy a something that's available on the market. The headers will make or break an ''All Motor'' combination. The only header heder that works is one that is tuned for the combination. Header design for all motor is based on a number of factors, rpm use, racing type, fuel used etc. Header design is based on primary length and 'id' dimensions, collector merge angle and exit diameter etc.
'PP' like short primaries like 10 to 13 inches with a collector 'ID' around 2.375 to 2.5 inches. which should merge into a 'megaphone' with an exit diameter of 3.5 to 4 inches depending on muffler entry size if used.
And again like I said the only header that works best is one that is tuned to the application so it takes a lot of R&D to acheived the right combination.
You should try and get in contact with 'Gato' from Orlando, Florida. He does very good fabrication and also did most of the work on 'Kilo's' car.

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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 03:18 AM
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use that sdj header u have
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Hey riceburner,

What did you end up buying for your "All Motor" setup? You said you were thinking about the SDJ Header but, did you end up buying one for your ride.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 03:22 AM
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nope i never did albert. did u ever get those rx8 rotors u wanted
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Thumbs up Do you have any RX-8 parts available?

Hey do you have a telephone number for your buddy with the brown RX-7 that was at Fontana this past weekend. I saw your car, but I did not see you. I am trying to contact people that will be able to participate next year in the "All Motor" Class. I have approximately 10 people now, but looking for as many as possible. My goal is to find at least 16 people that are willing to participate in the local Socal events.

Do you plan on racing in the "All Motor" Class next year?

I know when I ran into you a couple of years ago you mentioned that you were building a car for that class.

Let me know if your interested as well.

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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Hope to see all of these rotaries run besides me, so we can camp together in one big circus.These are a few in the all motor and modified.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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These are some more to come from around LA county.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Eveyone who wants to race next year post up your ride and picture.I dosn't have
to be all motor,it could be turbo or both.If anyone is interested let us know so
we can help each other.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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hey albert he will be moving n feb-march to florida, sorry to tell yeah,i am getting the drag car eady, been doing alot of cutting here n there for weight, u no those 2nd gens, u have to jeeny craig alot of it
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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here is some pics of the header we will be using on one of our all motor cars
SDJ header with the crossover tube
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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well i guess i will have to flip a coin with ya to see if im 1 of the people using it. damn this cheese is good
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