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Old 02-19-04, 07:41 PM
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New stronger seals from mazda!?!

I'm 99.9% sure that mazda has done all of us a big favor, and are now making a stronger factory apex seal. They are 2 piece, yes 2 piece!! just like the older 12a's and 84-85 13B. They are 2mm like usual, and slightly oversized in length. The new number is #n351-11-100C
and it replaces all of the apex seals from 86-95. Seem to be much stronger looking, maybe more detonation resistant? I will try to post a pic of them as soon as possible, as I just recieved a set yesterday for my rebuild. I think mazda is making them machined like the Rx-8 to cut down on machining costs, since the rx-8 uses 2 piece seals as well. Just thought I'd let you all know
And I also tried to get the old 3 piece, from the place I get my parts, and they are no longer made. The new number replaces all the old numbers for apex seals 86-95.
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I haven't heard anything like that, but if you are right, do you know if they are installed on the 99 spec FD?
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very interesting.....
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yea, its old news... that why the debate between which seal actually seals up better doesnt even matter anymore because all the seals are now 2 peice!!!
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Wasn't the debate not about 2pc vs. 3pc, but 2mm vs. 3mm? (All iron 3mm are 2pc...)

Crikey, this might turn into a debate about a debate. I give up.
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yep old news i had a set of the new ones 6 months or more ago.

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I thought I needed a set of two piece seals for my 20B uh six months ago. I'll just go easy on the three piece ones for a while I guess. Then I'll have the sloppy apex slots machined for 3mm seals.
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How much doest it cost to have seals machined from 2mm to 3mm on a fc and about how long (ballpark range) would my baby be out of commission?
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I'm hearing that the new Mazda 2pc 2mm seals are junk. This is from a few Mazda performance shops here in Japan. Any good/bad coments from the other side of the pond. Cost of one seal here is 30$ from Mazda.
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Originally posted by chuck8313BTSDS
I'm hearing that the new Mazda 2pc 2mm seals are junk. This is from a few Mazda performance shops here in Japan. Any good/bad coments from the other side of the pond. Cost of one seal here is 30$ from Mazda.
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I've heard the same thing over here in UK from my tuner.
Seems a bit of a rash decision by Mazda to discontinue 3pc.
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Originally posted by Kombat_killa
How much doest it cost to have seals machined from 2mm to 3mm on a fc and about how long (ballpark range) would my baby be out of commission?
Hey we have a dedicated machine and can have it ready for you in just a couple of hours.. Give the shop a call for pricing 253-848-7776
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Originally posted by chuck8313BTSDS
I'm hearing that the new Mazda 2pc 2mm seals are junk. This is from a few Mazda performance shops here in Japan. Any good/bad coments from the other side of the pond. Cost of one seal here is 30$ from Mazda.
chuck
Just when I was starting to get excited. Damn!
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