fdracer

well if eddie bello, actually got out jail and worked to pay for his tube frame porsche then i'd be willing to say maybe he paid his debt to society. but we all know how this current car was paid for, so no i don't think he should be forgiven. we all know how much it costs to build a pro-class car and throw into that the extra expense of a fully built porsche motor, you know that he didn't pay for this w/ legal means. personally i struggle to scrape together every penny to build a drag car, so i can't just close my eyes and say **** it i don't care how eddie bello made all his money. this isn't just about eddie, it's the principle. if able gets convicted then i'd say **** him too. it's hard when you see people, me included, pretty much put in their life savings to do it the right way while others cheat, steal, and rob their way to success and money.

Bridgeported

So, to get back on topic... (and since I have no input on the eddie bello subject )

What do you guys think the RX-8 that Abel campains will be like? If it's still a pro-class car, obviously it's going to be an engine with an RX-8 looking molded form overtop of it...

Almost guranteed it will be the 2-rotor ... no doubt about it. I wonder just how much modifications the engien will require to make the necessary HP compared to the modifications the current 13B requires.
Think he will keep both intake and exhaust side ported?

DELTA_Rotary

He mentioned he got the bugs worked out of the 3-rotor but didnt say what car it was going into.

turbostreetfighter

there is no way he is going to make 1500+ h.p. out of any two rotor and i doubt that he will use the renesis engine if he were to use a two rotor. he has too much time and R+D into the old faithfull 13b and 20b! as many problems as he had this past year with powerplants he would have to do it all over again with a new powerplant. remember he has got to run at least 6.90's to be competetive this year especially with those damn solara's that are running on kill!! if his car is 2200 lbs ( assuming this is his weight, i dont think he is lighter than this) he needs to make 1325hp to run a 6.9 and 1375hp to run 200 mph!! honestly i think his car is heavier than that and closer to 2400lbs judging by his two rotor times and MPH. at his level it is all about power and money!!

MWW

Bridgeported

His 20B FD weighs in at 1840lbs as far as I have heard (various websites and import mags).
For a rotary to be competitive in the Pro class it seems it must be < 2000 lbs. I think rafaelito had their FC down around 1700 or a little less even!!

fdracer

i dunno if it can be that light w/ as short a wheelbase as it has. it would be too unstable. i dunno off hand but i think the min. weight for 3rotors/6cyl. in nhra are higher than that. btw, he says hes sticking the 20b in the 8.

turbostreetfighter

i have a hard time believing that car weighs 1840 lbs especially with a 20b. lets do the math ....with a two rotor he would have to be around 1780 lbs and his best pass was a 7.29@188 ( last i heard) so that means he was making around 925 FWHP or around 795RWHP. i was sure that he was making more power than that but maybe not. another thing is that the pro class has to be at least 1600 lbs and 150 for NOS and another weight penalty for the three rotor ( i think another 150) so to be legal he has to be at least 1900 lbs. so for him to be competetive at the minimum weight limit he needs to make 1150 FWHP and that would put him at 6.88@197 mph!! this is good news as long as his weight is there, a three rotor should be able to make 1200hp and if anyone can do it it would be Abel!!!


MWW

Bridgeported

Yeah, I can confirm the weight, but that is what I have read. I flipped trhough a few back issues of my car mags and one of them (Modified Mag) said 1840lbs as well. This could be his car though before the weight penelty is added, so his car would gain 300 more lbs (if it's 150 nos and 150 3rotor) making it about 2140 lbs... sounds more accurate for his timeslips.

I don't think his 3rotor would be putting out any less than 1100 hp @ the wheels... but who knows.

crispeed

NHRA requires all 3-rotor powered cars in the pro class to weigh in at 2050lbs minimum. When Falito ran 7.70 at Gainsville his car weighed 1750lbs. Both Siguel and Flaco had to add weight to meet the 2050lb minimum.
Flaco's best time with the 20B was 7.29.

crispeed
87 Rx-7 TII
9.204@150.47mph
2600lbs
un-tubbed

turbostreetfighter

i did not think he was that light , i am assuming Siquel was at legal weight when he ran the 7.13??

at the minimum weight with a 20b to run 6.88 they need to make around 1240 FWHP and expected mph would be around 198!!

MWW

Bridgeported

I think his car could be weighing in at 1840 lbs BEFORE the weight penalty. Add on the penalties (300 lbs) and you are at the minimum weight of 2050 lbs (well, 10 lbs shy).
Still, that would be pretty amazing if it's that light, right at the minimum weight!

turborotarypower

that would be 2140 lbs !