Rotary Car Performance General Rotary Car and Engine modification discussions.

Higher compression rotors

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-26-09, 12:22 PM
  #1  
pissin' on pistons

Thread Starter
iTrader: (26)
 
Slevin_FD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Charleston
Posts: 1,168
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Higher compression rotors

Does anyone know if anyone had done any research in this area? I'm not thinking about dome thing ludacris like 12:1 but how about a 10.5:1 i only ask because I see that there are some N/A P-Ports's making in the area of 500HP with standard compression rotors, and I was wondering if a slight increase in compression could push them into the 6-700 range. Just a question I thought about today at lunch. Thanks guys.
Old 05-27-09, 02:11 AM
  #2  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Chaotic_FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: paradise Florida
Posts: 946
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I believe RX-8 rotors are 10.3:1.

But there is a reason why compression cant be raised too high on a rotary.. I think its something to do with volumetric efficiency... I cant remember, but mabey somebody can fill me in.
Old 05-27-09, 09:03 AM
  #3  
pissin' on pistons

Thread Starter
iTrader: (26)
 
Slevin_FD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Charleston
Posts: 1,168
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I can't remember if you can use RX-8 rotors in a 13B. You have to forgive me it seems that my brain isn't working today.
Old 05-27-09, 09:08 AM
  #4  
Doesn't suck

iTrader: (5)
 
tasty danish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Pensacola FL
Posts: 701
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Chaotic_FC
I believe RX-8 rotors are 10.3:1.

But there is a reason why compression cant be raised too high on a rotary.. I think its something to do with volumetric efficiency... I cant remember, but mabey somebody can fill me in.
Just to chime it, it has something to do with the clearance between the rotor face and rotor housing getting too small to promote adequate combustion, what with the disadvantageous rectangle shape of a rotary combustion chamber to begin with.

The situation (though in practice bears little to no resemblance to this) reminds me of old flathead engines where the higher you made compression the more you hampered flow into/out of the head by the valves. Happy mediums.

Yes you can use renesis rotors in a prior gen 13b.
Old 05-27-09, 09:16 PM
  #5  
Full Member
 
quattro4now's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Iowa
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Renesis rotors are 10.0:1 with the option of race rotors that are 10.2:1.

From what I've read 11.0:1 is about as high as you can go. Above that they will create two flame fronts (one at each plug) that can cause detonation when they collide with one another.
Old 05-27-09, 09:59 PM
  #6  
pissin' on pistons

Thread Starter
iTrader: (26)
 
Slevin_FD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Charleston
Posts: 1,168
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
so where might I find the race rotors
preferably used because I"m sure they are high dollar brand new
Old 05-27-09, 10:40 PM
  #7  
pissin' on pistons

Thread Starter
iTrader: (26)
 
Slevin_FD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Charleston
Posts: 1,168
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Also, does anyone have any dyno sheets or other info on the differences in rotor usage on N/A P-ports.
Old 05-28-09, 01:15 AM
  #8  
Full Member
 
quattro4now's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Iowa
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Slevin_FD
so where might I find the race rotors
preferably used because I"m sure they are high dollar brand new
AFAIK mazda is the only place to get them and I haven't a clue where you could get a used set.

gmonsen could probably tell you what they cost new since he has them in his 20b fd.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ZacMan
Build Threads
4
09-19-15 09:20 PM
Blk 93
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
11
09-09-15 10:56 AM
ZaqAtaq
New Member RX-7 Technical
2
09-05-15 08:57 PM



Quick Reply: Higher compression rotors



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:18 PM.