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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 01:50 AM
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Hardening Process

Does anyone know the process used by Racing Beat to harden their stationary gears? Is there more to it than just cryo-treating them?

I'm wanting to harden the stationary gears and e-shaft on my S5 N/A.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 02:20 AM
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I am not sure, but you could have them coated with titainium nitride, that would make them very hard and smooth.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 06:39 AM
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call and ask them, they have a line for general tech support.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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Yeah, but they probably wont tell you! They dont like giving out info they worked to figure out?
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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just get some atomantium from wolverine, good ****!
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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Adamantium?
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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Find a local industrial gear manufacturer.

They're probably case carburized, but there are a few different methods.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 11:09 PM
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Care to list those other methods?
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 05:46 AM
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what is the ping method that i've heard people talk about?
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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I believe that you are thinking of shot peening, I know that it is a stress relief that they use on rods to make them stronger.
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Thats the word yeah!

So how does it work? Could you do something like that on any rotary parts to make them more dense / stronger?
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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You can shot peen the root of each gear tooth, but the metal shot would of course damage any bearing surfaces so they would have to be re-ground. This is also done on industrial gears.

Other hardening methods include induction hardening, flame hardening, yadda, yadda, yadda.

There's a whole industry and science to hardening and heat treating methods. Lots of stuff to learn out there.
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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So how does it work? Could you do something like that on any rotary parts to make them more dense / stronger?
It's like sandblasting something with little metal *****. It's typically done to crankshafts and rods on reciprocating engines

Usually the cranks bearing journals are repolished and hard chromed after shot-peening.

I suppose you could do it to the e-shaft.

But I'm more intrested in j200pruf's idea, titanium nitride coating. Does anybody know if this has been done? If there aren't any serious drawbacks I think that would be the bomb
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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In RB's catalog it says Mazda did that to some of the RX's internals.

I've decided I'm just going to Cryo-Treat my engine's internals.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 10:02 AM
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I have shot peened apex seals
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