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Old 05-20-03, 08:15 PM
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Engine build ideas and questions.

I've contemplating what to do with my fc this summer. I'm on a $8.00/hr, 40hr a week, Taco Bell budget here so...

I thought about the TII swap into my FC at first, my car has a very nice body, paint, and interior (1986 GXL). First thing I'm getting ready to buy an everyday driver here shortly (older toyota corolla or honda civic....oh yeeaa!!). TII swap, looking at $1,675 shipped for a S4 TII engine and trans from fc3s.org...I'd want to rebuild the j-spec b/c they should be awesome cores with the low mileage they have. So thats another $1,100 rebuild kit from Racing Beat, $90.00 90psi OPR. Then I need to get a custom driveshaft made to mate my n/a rear end to the TII trans, TII boost sensor and knock control box I believe. I'd probably just go with a Microtech EMS b/c of the cost of finding a used TII ecu and engine harness...might as well upgrade and have the benefits of a Microtech (nicely priced too I might add). So far thats like around $3,600 not counting all the misc. hoses, parts to wire the microtech, fuel pump, etc.

My other idea was to rebuild my current 13B 6port..now heres where I have questions. Would it be desireable to obtain some TII endlates (assuming this can be done..which I'm pretty sure it can, so I'd be 4 port), then street port the intake ports, find some TII rotor housings, put some S5 rotors for the bit high comp., then find a 100+ shot nitrous kit (I've read scathcarts stuff, anybody put together a kit or a kit that can be used with some minor modding to it, Ive hear something about mustang kits working?), along with a Microtech to tune it, a fuel pump and some 550 secondaries maybe for nitrous use (needed or....?) Or would all this just as affect while keeping the engine 6 port? I've just read (I know porting 6 port engine is possible and MANY do it successfully) that porting a 4 port engine yields much better results...What kind of power we talking on the n20? I've heard Judge Ito has had lots of sucess with nitrous on rotaries making nice 1/4 times and power.

Thanks for reading this and I feel these are pretty good questions that others might have too. Heres a pic of my baby next my good friend and teachers Chevelle, 396!!

-Marc

See why I dont want to just sel my Rex and buy a TII with a popped motor. I dont want to have to mess with body work and paint...
Old 05-20-03, 08:19 PM
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Old 05-20-03, 09:04 PM
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In the end, it depends on your power goals, your budget, and how willing you are to live with unreliability.

I would recommend that you start N/A, and go fully modded, but hold off on the engine. Mod your car in such a way that you will minimize outlay in order to go turbo. Go ahead and get the full TII drivetrain, get a good exhaust, fuel pump able to support a turbo (Walbro 255lph), ECU that will handle boost with minimal cash outlay (i.e. Microtech LT-8 or *coughE6Kcough*), etc. Set yourself up so that when you're ready to go turbo, all you'll need is a longblock, a turbo, and an intercooler.

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Old 05-20-03, 09:17 PM
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That makes sense...as far as doing anything with my n/a..I'm maxed..once I find my everday beater..I'll start by just getting a TII rear end and trans...I like your thinking alot man..

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Another idea would be to bridgeport the 5th and 6th ports, street port the primaries and the 3rd and 4th ports, use the Pineapple racing sleeves, as well as Turbo II rotor housing sleeves, and go from there. You may not need an aftermarket EFI system for this setup. I've heard of one setup working with this hardware; I'll have one of my own setup in a few months as well to verify it.

Of course, standalone EFI works wonders and will leave you with the ability to change anything in the engine bay or powerplant setup you'd like down the road...

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what about the stock efi system handling big nitrous shots though??
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Originally posted by marcus219
what about the stock efi system handling big nitrous shots though??
Yep, that's a good one. I'm a big fan of aftermarket EFI systems (as long as they work and can perform). I would recommend it if you're planning on doing major changes.

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