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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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detroit auto show...you want to see this :)

My uncle gets a sneak peek at the auto show every year cause of his position at Lear...anyway, he snapped this for me......ENJOY!



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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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hydrogen sweet wonder if it would make power
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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I'm certainly getting some blood flow down there
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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Looks like a two rotor w/o the intermediary almost. Crazy.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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Badass! Say goodbye to the smog police!
I would love to have that engine in my den. Quite the piece of work.

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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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Can anyone say 4th gen maybe??? Prob not thou. They say that the 4th gen is might have around 280hp with a single turbo.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:30 AM
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Hydrogen has 90% more effiency than gasoline. BMW made a 750 HP 7 Series using a Hydrogen 8 Cylinder. Hydrogen is very potent and probably will be the future fuel.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 03:20 AM
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sweet!! Now I don't have to tear out my seats, AC, CC, spare tire........ to make it lighter. H2 will light it up for me
Cannot wait to see one run.
But will it be dangerous if you get into accident Might not pass safety test here in the US. Might be just race legal.
Nice picture though, and thanks for sharing.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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wonder if they tried just direct fuel injection, as others like mitsu now do. better mpgs and emisions.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 02:17 AM
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That is the coolest thing I've seen today.

Here is one way to get hydrogen easily from water for use as a fuel. http://www.xogen.ca/applications.php
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by Choser
Looks like a two rotor w/o the intermediary almost. Crazy.
Very reflective intermediate.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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H2 is not dangerous. You can pass your hand through the flame (quickly). It just gets wet . In an accident the flameable gas rises out of the way. Many other fuels spill onto the road, where they ignite and burn anything that can't levitate . Less dangerous than propane or natural gas. The problem is finding a way to carry enough to get anywhere!
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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nobody mentioned the bigass turbocharger bolted to that engine...
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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Not to mention whats bolted behind the turbo. Switchable catalytic or something?
I guess no cat is required when running on H2, switched into circuit when running gasoline?
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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look atthe housings they look like regular husings with the exhaust port on the housing
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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they are regular housings..
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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yeah it's been out for a while on the Mazda site, it's been known for a while rotaries are really the only engines capable of doing hydrogen as it's unstable and if sprayed into a piston engine it detonates almost imidiatley,

i have a question though would there be any gains through using pertrol direct injection?
my guess would be some rediculous amount of boost as it sprays so late detonation is completley avoidable, or even LPG could be used instead.
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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I like LPG too. I wouldn't mind running in something.
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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I like LPG too. I wouldn't mind running in something.
i was just wondering if it would work for petrol as well, as if so, you could completly seperate the 4 area of the enigine, the intake plenum would only take air in, injector area would only inject the fuel and exhust would only carry exhust, would make for much easier tuning IMO, also with a later spay, i question if it would give better burining effiency??
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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Possibly. http://www.geocities.com/cd23c/propane.html
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by David Beale
H2 is not dangerous. You can pass your hand through the flame (quickly). It just gets wet . In an accident the flameable gas rises out of the way. Many other fuels spill onto the road, where they ignite and burn anything that can't levitate . Less dangerous than propane or natural gas. The problem is finding a way to carry enough to get anywhere!
how much, or how big of a tank would have to be used to equal the amount that a normal gas tank holds?
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by SNracing
how much, or how big of a tank would have to be used to equal the amount that a normal gas tank holds?
it's not the size that counts i the presure, and cuse hyrogen is the biggest element it is the hardest to compress, although i belive they have a 70ltr tank made up.
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 09:57 AM
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uuhhh.....hydrogen's the smallest element.
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