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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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Hell yeah Carl! And if you ever get to Fort Worth on a Thursday I am going to show you a "Scalliwag" night out This is from last Thursday http://scalliwag.com/city/101603/101603.html
This is our regular spot on Thursdays here.

We have a thread on it in the South Forum that started in June and is up to 45 pages with over 1100 posts and 8000 views! Lot's of pics of pretty girls and drunk guys. On the first link I am the guy in the Dallas Cowboys t-shirt.
Here is the big thread https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=1
So you better bring your party hat with you is all I can say We like our cars and our bars.
As a matter of fact you ought to scope the South forum for all the **** the RX'ers in DFW do, it's damn near crazy.
Oh, and we'll get you drunk and make you sing too!!!

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 03:59 AM
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http://www.quiethorsepower.com/beadform1.html

very simmilar to these, but less customizable and more of a tool, then a shop machine thing, i know the guy that makes these, Great guy, makes some awesome stuff, he mentoured me a little on CNC and such.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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That guy makes nice stuff. Hell I am lucky to even make an ugly one that works You are very lucky to know that guy. I wish I had a bud with a shop to put out that type of stuff. Of course I'd drive the poor bastard crazy!
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Scalliwag
Hell yeah Carl! And if you ever get to Fort Worth on a Thursday I am going to show you a "Scalliwag" night out This is from last Thursday http://scalliwag.com/city/101603/101603.html
This is our regular spot on Thursdays here.

We have a thread on it in the South Forum that started in June and is up to 45 pages with over 1100 posts and 8000 views! Lot's of pics of pretty girls and drunk guys. On the first link I am the guy in the Dallas Cowboys t-shirt.
Here is the big thread https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=1
So you better bring your party hat with you is all I can say We like our cars and our bars.
As a matter of fact you ought to scope the South forum for all the **** the RX'ers in DFW do, it's damn near crazy.
Oh, and we'll get you drunk and make you sing too!!!
Oh ****, I'd get myself into trouble.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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Oh ****, I'd get myself into trouble.
Haha! Only if I know you are here
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 05:15 AM
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kinda amazing that a couple lathe turnings and a few blocks of steel could make such an effective tool, awesome job.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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Here is a video of Brian Cain and Tony Farkas you guys might like
http://www.fanta.dk/showmovie.asp?mi...E-135305E39CA1
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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I suggest heating them until they are red hot and chunking them in used motor oil for hardening (the oil quech will increase the carbon)
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This doesn't increase carbon. This rapid cooling in oil changes the microstructure of the material thereby making it harder. If you quenched it in water it will even be harder but be more brittle.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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no oil cools it faster...mybe not motor oil, but i was told that cooking oil...or some type of oil would make it harder. i dont think water cools it fast enough.(well it dose help but oil is better. like alwasy i could be wrong. just my $.02
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:18 PM
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one more think would a small flam from something like this make it hot enough or should i get something bigger. http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...gjn.0&MID=9876

i would put this onto a Propane tank or something.

if this would not work i bet this would
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...gjn.0&MID=9876
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Old May 30, 2004 | 01:44 AM
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the new and improved version

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Old May 30, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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Damn, I haven't used the first tool yet, and it's already obsolete!
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Old May 30, 2004 | 02:24 AM
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Heck you got the "prototype" Wow it has been a long time now. You need to bead a tube just for the hell of it
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Old May 30, 2004 | 02:45 AM
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Nice job man.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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I ran a bead in two stages. The first pass was plenty but the second is like the G.I. Joe with Kung Fu grip













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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Scalliwag
I ran a bead in two stages. The first pass was plenty but the second is like the G.I. Joe with Kung Fu grip
Scali, can you make mandrels for smaller tubing? Like for fuel lines and such?
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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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I guess anything is possible. But there are so many types of compression fittings that I am not sure that it would be practical. Any particular reason on that?
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Old May 30, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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??????????? I meant for people who want to bead smaller tubing, like for brake ducts, fuel lines...any hard line used with a hose and a clamp. It has nothing to do with any type of fittings.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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I don't know if there would be any demand for that. The setup used for those lines to make the little humps don't work like the bead roller. They have an inner die to keep the line from collapsing and then it is kind of clamped at two points and then the two points are pressed towards each other. Whatever the shape of the "relief" is determines the shape of the hump.

That is kind of hard to explain.
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Old May 31, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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I understand perfectly. Your right. I need to take a machine shop course and learn how to do all this cool ****.
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Old May 31, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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I wish I had the time to do that as well. Back in 1980 I worked at a welding shop that paid for courses at a local community college here in Ft. Worth.
Of course I thought it was going to suck until I got there and found out the instructor was retired from NASA. That old fart was almost 70 and I have not met anyone still that was half as good a welder as him.
A guy that had laid over his motocycle and broke his a side cover had went to the best weld shops in town and was told that it was some weird *** alloy that could not be welded.
Ranier (the old fart... a Cajun old fart at that) looked at it and told us we were going to have a real world class tonight and he set it up on a table and fired up the TIG. he got a couple of different alloy filler rods and did a couple of test hits on the inside of the cover where you couldn't see it once mounted.
He ran with the one that looked the best and then he walked it over to the machine shop and handed it off to them to grind and buff.
When they brought it back the cover looked brand new. You could not tell it had ever been damaged except looking on the inside of the cover because they did not bother cleaning that up.
Even the seasoned welders that were only in that class to get their certs were totally blown away by this guy.

If I thought their machine shop was half as good as their welding class was 24 years ago I would jump on it. I just have a feeling that the class I was in may be the exception to the rule.
I am more prone now that we have a shop to hire us as good a machinist as we can afford and learn from him.
That way the equipment I learn off of is directly applicable to what I have and I would control the curricullum. Right now I know just enough to be dangerous. I can usually improvise to get something done and then I find out that I just found a pretty creative way to over-complicate a simple process
Once we get a vertical mill I will be as lost as a goose in a hail storm That will be when we get the hired help.
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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....and then I find out that I just found a pretty creative way to over-complicate a simple process
That's what we call experience, right?

On the other hand I know plenty of people with plenty of experience who don't THINK about the things they are doing and so they do the same thing the same way they have for years and waste their own time because they don't think like a problem solver, they think like a laborer.

I'm lazy and I also pay many of my employees by the hour so I'm always interested in the quickest way

If you're hiring anyone get somebody who can run the powder coat rig I still need my wheels done and we all loved that story about the box of white powder that arrived at your home
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[QUOTE=Scalliwag;2224642]Hey guys. Fresh from the garage we have a new toy. It works great. After hearing all the turbo guys whine about hoses popping off and needing to get it fixed it looked to be a worthy project.
The only thin walled aluminum tubing I had in the garage was 4" so it really dwarfs the gizmo and may appear smaller to you than it actually is if you think you are looking at actual IC pipe. Note that the bead is damn big and I can't see a hose popping off of that
These pics are for reference. Those of you with a lathe can make the dies. I suggest heating them until they are red hot and chunking them in used motor oil for hardening (the oil quech will increase the carbon)
The inner die has a bearing. The outer die is the drive die and is powered by a ratchet.
The two outer bolts press the bead. With the die in a good vise it is a piece of cake.
Please don't ask for measurements and minute (MY NOOT ) details.
I will make them for $80 if you need that much info.


Hi
Could you send me images of the bead roller you made please? I would like to make one.

Regards Andrew
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Scalliwag
Hey guys. Fresh from the garage we have a new toy. It works great. After hearing all the turbo guys whine about hoses popping off and needing to get it fixed it looked to be a worthy project.
The only thin walled aluminum tubing I had in the garage was 4" so it really dwarfs the gizmo and may appear smaller to you than it actually is if you think you are looking at actual IC pipe. Note that the bead is damn big and I can't see a hose popping off of that
These pics are for reference. Those of you with a lathe can make the dies. I suggest heating them until they are red hot and chunking them in used motor oil for hardening (the oil quech will increase the carbon)
The inner die has a bearing. The outer die is the drive die and is powered by a ratchet.
The two outer bolts press the bead. With the die in a good vise it is a piece of cake.
Please don't ask for measurements and minute (MY NOOT ) details.
I will make them for $80 if you need that much info.


Hi
Could you send me images of the bead roller you made please? I would like to make one.

Regards Andrew
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