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Old 05-06-06, 09:13 AM
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Question Bad Coolant Seal

I uaed the RA teflon coolant seal in my last rebuild , all was going well until a water hose came loose and I lost coolant without knowing , I dont exactly know how long it ran like that , but I know it could'nt be more than 30 minutes after wich we immediately topped up the water . Now something strange is happening , It keeps taking water , as soon as I start it up it spits out a lot of water through the radiator overflow then stops , there isn't anything else like gas coming through the overflow either , the radiator it self doesn't get hot after the car runs , I can actually place my hand on it for more than 10 minutes and it takes very long to heat up , the water temperature climbs slowly to about 80 deg , then it begins to fall back to about 74 deg where it stays until it begins to climb rapidly to 100+ . Some are saying that a water seal has failed , whilst others say that there is air trapped in the system , anyone know for sure
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go ahead and burp the system just in case there is some air in there, but hearing your complaint reminds me that i was chasing what i thought was a coolant leak a few years ago only to find out that it was a compromised coolant seal. i happened to be changing exhaust gaskets while doing my clutch a couple years ago when while turning the engine by hand to get at the clutch bolts i heard what i thought to be Victoria Falls - yes, antifreeze pouring out the exhaust ports onto the garage floor.

the car only tried to overheat when the coolant levels dropped enough to suck the reservoir dry. so i ended up having to add coolant about every 3 to 4 weeks. no excess pressure in the radiator. no varying temps. none of the usual signs of seal failure. bottomline, you may want to check your exhaust ports.
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if the radiator doesn't get hot, first thing to check is the thermostat and water pump.
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Just what myself and the radiator repair guy I thaught , so I went ahead and removed the thermostat , plugged the reirculation hole and it does the same thing . I'm going to get a vacuum check done on it tomorrow.
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no thermostat--radiator doesn't get hot...coolant isn't circulating. in addition to the possible blown coolant seals and warped housings, you might also have a bunk water pump.
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Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett
I uaed the RA teflon coolant seal in my last rebuild , all was going well until a water hose came loose and I lost coolant without knowing , I dont exactly know how long it ran like that , but I know it could'nt be more than 30 minutes after wich we immediately topped up the water

So your low coolant warning buzzer isn't working during this entire time?
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pressure test the cooling system to 13-14psi. Then run the engine for a while, check the plugs in the morning, if they are wet with coolant then you have your answer.
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
no thermostat--radiator doesn't get hot...coolant isn't circulating. in addition to the possible blown coolant seals and warped housings, you might also have a bunk water pump.

The day before the water pump worked fine ,things dont stop working just like that , I don't believe in co-incidences ......anyway I decided to do my own test ,if its compressionthats leaking into the cooling system then it should burn right ? . I removed the cap on the motor (I eliminated my air sep. tank a while ago) , started it up , put a cigarette lighter over the hole, and sure enough it caught fire ! , there was a small blue flame coming out of the thermostat housing.
After this I went back to the rad. repair guy and asked for a pressure check , he filled it back up and plugged the hole with his finger and told me to start the motor , he held it there for about 30 secs. and removed it , there was a jet of water about 3 ft tall spraying out of the hole.
I didn't bother to have him use the pump and all that , I went back home and began to work on it , .......by 2pm in the afternoon it was on the garage floor waiting for my motor guy to come and get it ! , he said that he would only be able to take it on Thursday evening , I should have it back by Friday , and I'll have it running by Saturday for the latest !
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