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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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4-rotor allowed at NOPI!

This year Nopi/NDRA is allowing 4-rotor motors to compete in the Sport Compact Extreme class.
That's great news for Mazda racers.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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Mazda racers will dominate the track now....no questions asked
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Ok if anybody is rich enough to run a 4 rotor AND have it running well. Like thats going to happen
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 02:18 AM
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its a shame no one has a 787b engine lol, domination of the all motor classes
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 02:47 AM
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there is a red rx7 (fd) from Australia with a 4 rotor , there is a video of it somewhere on this forum i think it is. it sounds so badass i cant even describe it. it f'n flys
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
This year Nopi/NDRA is allowing 4-rotor motors to compete in the Sport Compact Extreme class.
That's great news for Mazda racers.
I wonder if Marcos Acosta still have that 4 rotor engine

Anybody else?
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RXASSASIN7
there is a red rx7 (fd) from Australia with a 4 rotor , there is a video of it somewhere on this forum i think it is. it sounds so badass i cant even describe it. it f'n flys
^Thats na though and it "only" puts out as much as a nicely turboed 3 rotor.
It really does sound badass.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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could someone post a link to this website were that vid is, Thanks
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael_Rudy
could someone post a link to this website were that vid is, Thanks

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-46515.html
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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Eeeenteresting. If 4-rotors are legal to race somewhere, people will build them... which means that more people will figure out everything involved to do so, which means that they'll become more available (comparatively anyway)

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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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There are some places in Australia which have manufactured 4 rotor eccentric shafts, yet you don't see a bunch of 4 rotors running around down there. There are a few, the fd, the bmw, and one more if I remember correctly. But you'll still see a lot of the drag guys running 20b's or 13b's. I don't think you'll see a bunch of guys running 4 rotors in the states any time soon, and don't expect that you are going to be able to buy an ecentric shaft for cheap now either.

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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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What about twin 12a and 13bs? i know there are quite a few people making a 4 rotor from 12as.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Yea, after soooo much custom work and $100k in engine, what do they make ~1500hp/600tq And guarentee they will need to be completley rebuilt, just like every other rotary drag racer(no offense,but, you know its the truth).They just arent fast enough/ reliable enough, for the money to be competitive,period. They would be some bad *** machines,but, their simply isnt enough R&D in the rotary to ever be competitve with the top piston drag racers.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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Yea, after soooo much custom work and $100k in engine, what do they make ~1500hp/600tq And guarentee they will need to be completley rebuilt, just like every other rotary drag racer(no offense,but, you know its the truth).They just arent fast enough/ reliable enough, for the money to be competitive,period. They would be some bad *** machines,but, their simply isnt enough R&D in the rotary to ever be competitve with the top piston drag racers.
WHAT?!?!

Yes they will need to be completley rebuild, just like any other drag race engine, or do you really think that the rotary engines are the ONLY ones that do?


They arent fast enough?
http://ausrotary.dntinternet.com/for...=55487&start=0

7.2 @ 191 on a full chassis?

EDIT - I guess is not a full chassis anymore
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Originally Posted by RageRace
Yea, after soooo much custom work and $100k in engine, what do they make ~1500hp/600tq And guarentee they will need to be completley rebuilt, just like every other rotary drag racer(no offense,but, you know its the truth).They just arent fast enough/ reliable enough, for the money to be competitive,period. They would be some bad *** machines,but, their simply isnt enough R&D in the rotary to ever be competitve with the top piston drag racers.
One of the dumbest blanketing statements I've read all weekend.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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'nother one...

http://mercury.walagata.com/w/izso/4rotorfd.mpeg
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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One of the dumbest blanketing statements I've read all weekend.
Hey,if im proven wrong then i will retract ALL statements ive ever made, until then all of my"blanketing statements" are presumed correct. BTW-Do any of you know if that car is weight legal???

What class is that 4 rotor able to compete- Pro extreme? Goodluck chasing Efantis.
Again, ONE fast time means absolutley nothing.Its being fast AND consistant(whicjis where i believe the roary engine just doesnt stackup) Again,until im proven wrong and a 4 rotor even places in the top 3, at more than 1 event, illstand by my statements.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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RageRace,

Again, stupid statement. Please there are a ton of rotories that have been consistant. Look at Abel, Ari and the N/A folks who still hold records. Why dont you prove us wrong instead??
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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You'd think since he is Florida, he may know something about all the guys in PR. Guess not.
He obviously knows nothing about all the Aussies either...or the drag racers here for that matter.
He can live in his ignorance.
He did make one correct statement though...or at least part of it "their simply isnt enough R&D in the rotary"
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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RageRace,

Again, stupid statement. Please there are a ton of rotories that have been consistant. Look at Abel, Ari and the N/A folks who still hold records. Why dont you prove us wrong instead??
I cant even believe that you tried to pass off Ari's name in being Consistant. Please, I may be wrong, but, did ANY of those guys finish in the top 3 in ANY series'?

Again, it all comes down to what class they allow the 4 rotors to run in. If they classify them in with AEM, Bullish, Titan etc they are finished. Those guys are trapping over 210+mph.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-Heven
You'd think since he is Florida, he may know something about all the guys in PR. Guess not.
He obviously knows nothing about all the Aussies either...or the drag racers here for that matter.
He can live in his ignorance.
He did make one correct statement though...or at least part of it "their simply isnt enough R&D in the rotary"
One correct statement? O yea, i forgot about the rotary dominance in drag racing, lately

I know plenty about the guys in PR, and have no hate for the rotary whatsoever. Actually,look at my sig of my rotary powered car being built. This has NOTHING to do with 4 rotors not being super fast, cool,or whatever you want to call them. I love rotaries. I just dont understand how you can agree with -Not enough R&D. Thta is what racing is all about R&D, constantly refining and progressing in materials, workmanship, prices, performance, blah, blah,blah.

What advantage do you see a 4 rotor- that is going to cost more money to mantain, doesnt make as much power, has limited R&D on new technology, and DOESNT HAVE THE MONEY BEHIND THE TEAMS. How in the world do you see them being competitive with the teams running now????
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 04:31 AM
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I thought Ari was the NHRA National champion for 2000-2003 ? Or was it 2000-2002
There are alot more then just them. If they were not competitive then why are rotories still competing ? Think about that one.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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I thought Ari was the NHRA National champion for 2000-2003 ? Or was it 2000-2002
There are alot more then just them. If they were not competitive then why are rotories still competing ? Think about that one.
Competing is one thing, hell, I could compete with Efantis. Am i going to win, No. Why? There is simply too much money into the piston teams, and the piston engine market. This is the ONLY reason that the rotary wont win, becuase of the lack of $/R&D. You guys can call it stupid or whatever, when a rotary even places(nevermind WIN) than ill retract all the statements and concede to the all mighty 4 rotor! But it all comes down to WINNING. If someone would like to "attemt" to tell me ONE advantage that a team utilizing a rotary engine has over ateam using a piston engine, I would LOVE to hear it
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Well your right about winning at this moment (besides the All Motor) but who cares. I mean its the first year they started losing big deal. Things change all the time in the racing scene. I personally dont give a crap if rotories are not winning many races at the moment. There history of win's in the recent past will always superseed (bad spelling?) this years losses. Like I said things change all the time like with the rules and stuff. I personally dont care. It doesent sound like you really paid attention to racing back in 2000-2003 anyways. Try google. You will see that theres even a pinto class of racing.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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Well your right about winning at this moment (besides the All Motor) but who cares. I mean its the first year they started losing big deal. Things change all the time in the racing scene. I personally dont give a crap if rotories are not winning many races at the moment. There history of win's in the recent past will always superseed (bad spelling?) this years losses. Like I said things change all the time like with the rules and stuff. I personally dont care. It doesent sound like you really paid attention to racing back in 2000-2003 anyways. Try google. You will see that theres even a pinto class of racing.
I was just making a point/comment about the 4 rotors now be allowed into the NDRA. Racing is racing, and I love all of it. But, if you are going to COMPETE at the TOP LEVEL of "import" racing, why get all excited about a car that best run didnt even trap 195. AEM, Efantis, etc are all beyond 210. Point being, its great that they are going to allow the 4 rotor. I just dont see the point of dropping hundreds of thousands of dollars racing in a series where they are at a disadvantage. Unless they are going to let them run with 4cyl guys. But, Im pretty sure they will be in PRO Extreme, running with the likes of AEM, Bullish, Titan,etc
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