Turbo Hayabusa vs TT Viper
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Originally Posted by Apparition
http://www.totalkaosperformance.com/tvms.htm
This Turbo Busa ran 7:985 @ 183.77mph
It has Lights and turn signals. I don't know what constitutes street legal in this case but I doubt this or any 1000HP is really "Street legal". This if from last year I belive. If you get a chance, check out some of the other bikes on the site. Some of them are crazy.
This Turbo Busa ran 7:985 @ 183.77mph
It has Lights and turn signals. I don't know what constitutes street legal in this case but I doubt this or any 1000HP is really "Street legal". This if from last year I belive. If you get a chance, check out some of the other bikes on the site. Some of them are crazy.
Bike - 2002 Suzuki GSX1300R
Swing Arm - Trac Dynamics
Chain - EK DRZ 530
Wheels - Stock
Rear Tire - Mickey Thompson Shootout
Exhaust - Muzzy's Sidewinder
Electronics - Schnitz Progressive Box & Retard Box
Spark Plugs - NGK
Sprockets - Sprocket Specialist
Bearings - World Wide Bearings ceramic
Transmission - Fast by Gast
Oil Pan - Koenig
Crankshaft - Falicon
Pistons - JE
Cylinder - Millenium
Nitrous oxide - NOS wet system
Cams - F.M.S.
Valves - Stainless
Valve Springs - CRE
Air Shifter - MRE
Clutch - MTC Lock-up
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Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
http://www.dragbike.com/features/mikeslowe/
Bike - 2002 Suzuki GSX1300R
Swing Arm - Trac Dynamics
Chain - EK DRZ 530
Wheels - Stock
Rear Tire - Mickey Thompson Shootout
Exhaust - Muzzy's Sidewinder
Electronics - Schnitz Progressive Box & Retard Box
Spark Plugs - NGK
Sprockets - Sprocket Specialist
Bearings - World Wide Bearings ceramic
Transmission - Fast by Gast
Oil Pan - Koenig
Crankshaft - Falicon
Pistons - JE
Cylinder - Millenium
Nitrous oxide - NOS wet system
Cams - F.M.S.
Valves - Stainless
Valve Springs - CRE
Air Shifter - MRE
Clutch - MTC Lock-up
Bike - 2002 Suzuki GSX1300R
Swing Arm - Trac Dynamics
Chain - EK DRZ 530
Wheels - Stock
Rear Tire - Mickey Thompson Shootout
Exhaust - Muzzy's Sidewinder
Electronics - Schnitz Progressive Box & Retard Box
Spark Plugs - NGK
Sprockets - Sprocket Specialist
Bearings - World Wide Bearings ceramic
Transmission - Fast by Gast
Oil Pan - Koenig
Crankshaft - Falicon
Pistons - JE
Cylinder - Millenium
Nitrous oxide - NOS wet system
Cams - F.M.S.
Valves - Stainless
Valve Springs - CRE
Air Shifter - MRE
Clutch - MTC Lock-up
In the article in the link you posted he says "I have a deal to ride 60" class next year on a turbocharged hayabusa" "Velocity racing out of Florida will sponser the bike" The bike in my link is said velocity racing bike.
I think they banned the combined use of both power adders in 2003
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Originally Posted by Apparition
I don't think thats the same bike. Note the exhaust in the link you posted, and the wheels. . There is no mention of a turbo on that mod list. The bike in my link is clearly a turbo bike, note the air filter in the left side of the bike and a dump pipe for the wastegate. I think the link you posted is of his old bike.
In the article in the link you posted he says "I have a deal to ride 60" class next year on a turbocharged hayabusa" "Velocity racing out of Florida will sponser the bike" The bike in my link is said velocity racing bike.
I think they banned the combined use of both power adders in 2003
In the article in the link you posted he says "I have a deal to ride 60" class next year on a turbocharged hayabusa" "Velocity racing out of Florida will sponser the bike" The bike in my link is said velocity racing bike.
I think they banned the combined use of both power adders in 2003
BTW: There are also more powerful Vipers on the street:
Castellano Twin Turbo now completed.
Most powerful Twin Turbo Viper on the dyno ever!
1512 RWTQ and 1279 RWHP
We can play that game all day long. Bottom line the viper was faster than the bike in the video.
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http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/phpbb/...ic.php?t=46011
Not exactly rock solid proof, but you can tell form the disscusion that this is not out of the ordinary.
If you look at the sigs of some of the guys on that site there are a few in the 8sec range and high 160s and some in the 170s I couldn't find any pics of timeslips or anything. But I guess if you asked, someone would have one or a vid or someting like that.
Not exactly rock solid proof, but you can tell form the disscusion that this is not out of the ordinary.
If you look at the sigs of some of the guys on that site there are a few in the 8sec range and high 160s and some in the 170s I couldn't find any pics of timeslips or anything. But I guess if you asked, someone would have one or a vid or someting like that.
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Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
Maybe, maybe not but lets take your word for it. We have ONE bike barely cracking into the 7's...7.985. Secondly, the bike in the video I posted runs 9's not 8's or 7's in the 150's so the guy blabbing the on the bike couldn't ride etc. was wrong. The bike didn't have enough power and the tuner admitted it.
BTW: There are also more powerful Vipers on the street:
Castellano Twin Turbo now completed.
Most powerful Twin Turbo Viper on the dyno ever!
1512 RWTQ and 1279 RWHP
We can play that game all day long. Bottom line the viper was faster than the bike in the video.
BTW: There are also more powerful Vipers on the street:
Castellano Twin Turbo now completed.
Most powerful Twin Turbo Viper on the dyno ever!
1512 RWTQ and 1279 RWHP
We can play that game all day long. Bottom line the viper was faster than the bike in the video.
The most powerful Busa in the world makes 701HP, The bike doesn't weigh that in pounds. Scary.
There quite a few bikes in that class that run 7's. The record is 7.25@200.17 BTW
http://www.velocityracing.com/home.htm
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Originally Posted by Apparition
You are absolutly right, But you wanted to see proof of 7's @ 170+trap etc. so I just thew that in. But the proof, in this case is in the tape and thats all that really matters. As for the guy can't ride, I think thats BS myself. There in no way That bike would have won that race
The most powerful Busa in the world makes 701HP, The bike doesn't weigh that in pounds. Scary.
There quite a few bikes in that class that run 7's. The record is 7.25@200.17 BTW
http://www.velocityracing.com/home.htm
The most powerful Busa in the world makes 701HP, The bike doesn't weigh that in pounds. Scary.
There quite a few bikes in that class that run 7's. The record is 7.25@200.17 BTW
http://www.velocityracing.com/home.htm
"Show us the countless 7 second 170 mph slips."
Now we are into drag racing vehicles and the cars will easily win that one. Even the pro street class in which the guy ran 180 on the bike isn't as fast as the car s in the same class. Look at the cars and see which is faster. Andy Jensen 7.03 @ 200 :67 Corvette, 472 SBC.
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i didnt want to start confusion
i didnt know anything about the busa in this video so i wasnt trying to doubt anyone about the specs of that bike..
i clearly wanted to state that they're are alot of turbo busas, trapping 170+ and running low 8s or better..
thats all, tell you the truth, i wasnt even talking about this vid at all, i dont even care who would have won in the 1/4 or off a roll, i just wanted to clear what i stated above about 170+ traps.
thank god this madness is over, i hate arguing over the internet, its really stupid..
i didnt know anything about the busa in this video so i wasnt trying to doubt anyone about the specs of that bike..
i clearly wanted to state that they're are alot of turbo busas, trapping 170+ and running low 8s or better..
thats all, tell you the truth, i wasnt even talking about this vid at all, i dont even care who would have won in the 1/4 or off a roll, i just wanted to clear what i stated above about 170+ traps.
thank god this madness is over, i hate arguing over the internet, its really stupid..
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Here's my .02 cents.
As far as Turbo bikes running in the 7's yes it is not uncommon. The bike that holds the world record of 7.25 seconds at 200.17 MPH is a STREET LEGAL bike, not a top fuel bike. There are plenty of other Turbo Busas out there running in the 7's, if you want exact time I'll get them for you.
A little information about Turbo Busas in the 1/4 mile. They are a mother to launch. It is is hard to launch a 160RWHP Hayabusa never mind one close to 300RWHP (one in the video was less than 275RHWP) and the ones running 7's are in the 550RWHP and up range. I've seen many Turbo Hayabusas get beat off the line by Nitrous bikes and even all motor bikes because they can launch them easier, but when it comes to a roll on race the Turbo will eat the other two alive most of the time. This is another reason why I don't think you can come up with what this bike's 1/4 mile time would be by his 1/8 mile numbers but maybe you know for sure.
Now, the video in question. First off I'll say this, this viper beat this busa, I'm not going to argue that because if you watch the video it's fact. Here are the things I find a little odd. Even if the bike was extended (which it was) one of two things should have happened the first being the front end should have come up and if it didn't because of the extention the rear tire should have spun like no tomorrow. Bikes that are extended with much less RWHP will do this so the Turbo should have done the same. From what I've read he had an air shifter so this would explain why it didn't look like he was shifting but.....the front end of the bike never rises, I'm not talking about a wheelie I'm talking about how even in a car when you give it gas you can see the headlights come up, but not the bike. At 80MPH in second gear that bike should have shown some effort of accelleration. Lastly the race is suppose to go from 80 to 180 but takes somewhere around 10 to 12 seconds. It should not take that bike 12 seconds to get from 80 to 180, not a 275RWHP busa. Lastly why have the face hidden on the video, but that is just wierd not anything to "bench race" about.
I guess he is trying to setup a race between a well known Busa rider on the Busa forum. Hopefully he does this and if it's someone that we know wouldn't sandbag and know exactly what the bike is running for power then there will be no doubting the race. We'll see but until then I'm saying something's fishy.
As far as Turbo bikes running in the 7's yes it is not uncommon. The bike that holds the world record of 7.25 seconds at 200.17 MPH is a STREET LEGAL bike, not a top fuel bike. There are plenty of other Turbo Busas out there running in the 7's, if you want exact time I'll get them for you.
A little information about Turbo Busas in the 1/4 mile. They are a mother to launch. It is is hard to launch a 160RWHP Hayabusa never mind one close to 300RWHP (one in the video was less than 275RHWP) and the ones running 7's are in the 550RWHP and up range. I've seen many Turbo Hayabusas get beat off the line by Nitrous bikes and even all motor bikes because they can launch them easier, but when it comes to a roll on race the Turbo will eat the other two alive most of the time. This is another reason why I don't think you can come up with what this bike's 1/4 mile time would be by his 1/8 mile numbers but maybe you know for sure.
Now, the video in question. First off I'll say this, this viper beat this busa, I'm not going to argue that because if you watch the video it's fact. Here are the things I find a little odd. Even if the bike was extended (which it was) one of two things should have happened the first being the front end should have come up and if it didn't because of the extention the rear tire should have spun like no tomorrow. Bikes that are extended with much less RWHP will do this so the Turbo should have done the same. From what I've read he had an air shifter so this would explain why it didn't look like he was shifting but.....the front end of the bike never rises, I'm not talking about a wheelie I'm talking about how even in a car when you give it gas you can see the headlights come up, but not the bike. At 80MPH in second gear that bike should have shown some effort of accelleration. Lastly the race is suppose to go from 80 to 180 but takes somewhere around 10 to 12 seconds. It should not take that bike 12 seconds to get from 80 to 180, not a 275RWHP busa. Lastly why have the face hidden on the video, but that is just wierd not anything to "bench race" about.
I guess he is trying to setup a race between a well known Busa rider on the Busa forum. Hopefully he does this and if it's someone that we know wouldn't sandbag and know exactly what the bike is running for power then there will be no doubting the race. We'll see but until then I'm saying something's fishy.
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I wanted to add this earlier but forgot to.
The setup of that bike should easily make it run mid to low 8's. I've got an article with a bike that had the same setup as far as streched, lowered, and an airshifter that went 8.9, but the biggest difference was this bike only had a pipe and race gas putting out 175RWHP, not 275RWHP like the bike in the video.
The setup of that bike should easily make it run mid to low 8's. I've got an article with a bike that had the same setup as far as streched, lowered, and an airshifter that went 8.9, but the biggest difference was this bike only had a pipe and race gas putting out 175RWHP, not 275RWHP like the bike in the video.
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Turbo busas are really fast, and can be a lot faster than cars can hope to ever be, but Gary Javo's viper is no joke, either. It may not be the fastest Heffner TT Viper (8.9@168mph on ET streets), but it's legitemately fast. Bikes>cars, but you can't automatically say, "BS, OMG BS" whenever you see a car beat a bike. Did anyone else see the video of how badly this car walked a GSXR-1000?
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Originally Posted by snub disphenoid
Turbo busas are really fast, and can be a lot faster than cars can hope to ever be, but Gary Javo's viper is no joke, either. It may not be the fastest Heffner TT Viper (8.9@168mph on ET streets), but it's legitemately fast. Bikes>cars, but you can't automatically say, "BS, OMG BS" whenever you see a car beat a bike. Did anyone else see the video of how badly this car walked a GSXR-1000?
yeah i understand but like i said, i wasnt calling BS, nowhere in this thread did i say bs, i said it LOOKS like the busa wasnt trying..
Way to ruin a thread
Busa413, thank you so much for coming into this thread....
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Originally Posted by jamespond24
What happen Mr.Rx7TT? You finally shut up! This is priceless.
I made my point in multiple threads, as did others. Did you purchase a dictionary? I ask because you actually wrote a sentence without a bunch of errors.
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