Mr. Belvi

SOHC Civic's run High 16's, the GXL does what mid 16's?

Mr. Belvi

That sounds about right then compared to a stock GXL. I/H/E isn't a huge improvement over stock in a SOHC.

oneflytrini

iTrader: (1)

ive seen so many fake intercoolers on those riced out rides.....their little trick is to mount just the core in the front of the car, but if you look closely they dont have any of the pipes from the turbo or to the intake.

Daniel577h

yes they can. depends on the setup.

1RevvinFC3S

My friend has a 2000 EX with a cold air intake and a cat- back exhaust. He brought back the dyno sheet and was expecting me to be impressed with 94 fwhp. Hands down, civics are SSSSSSLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW WWWWWWW.

r0t0r-rooter

There's something wrong with that car

Mr. Belvi

It's not an EX then, probably a DX. EX's have 127hp stock which should be around 110whp. Either your dyno tuner sucks or his car is fucked up.

Still slow, but his car isn't running right.

thecause17

That's one thing just cant' understand. Trying to make people think yor car is fast when it's not. That just makes it worse when they get their *** handed to them.

Legitamate turbo Civics can be fast. Believe it or not, SOHC motors are preferred for boost over the DOHC, because of the high compression of the DOHC.

My bro is currently running a Jackson Racing S/C in his del sol(SOHC). Although it feels quick, and he has most other bolt-ons on it for the car (I/H/E, pullyes, clutch, etc..) he's pushing in the neighborhood of 200whp( @ 6psi), and can only hope for mid 14's (ITR terriotry) For the money he's spent, I'm not impressed. But I guess for a 2 second 1/4 improvement...it's ok... For $3k, I can S/C my 4.0 4x4 Ranger and run just as fast as he is. He was bragging yesterday that he kept up with a stock Fox body stang.....if it was me, I would have been dispointed to only "keep up"

I just can't wait to see how he reacts when I get my SE on the road, and beat him with it after a few bolt-ons and some weight reduction.

Rxmfn7

iTrader: (4)

Haha, yea once you get your car running up to par , well both go beat on him. Cant wait to see his reaction getting beat by 2 N/A rotaries...

Cetchup

Turbo integras and civics are not slow if done correctly. My brother is running a turbo Type R with:

ENGINE:
B18C5 Motor
ACT Organic Spring Dampened Clutch
T3/T4 turbo
ACT HD Pressure Plate
Trust Front Mount Intercooler
Skunk 2 Adj. Cam Gears
Ross 9:2 to 1 Compression Pistons
ARP Head Studs
Crower Connecting Rods
Energy Suspension Motor Mount Inserts
Total Seal Piston Rings
K&N Valve Cover Breather
Custom Test Pipe
Fluidyne Radiator
Apexi Dunk 2 1/2 inch Exhaust
HKS Super-Sequential BOV
Balanced and Blueprinted Bottom End w/Custom Bearings done by AEBS of
San
Diego, CA

FUEL SYSTEM:
Walboro 255gal/hr Fuel Pump
AEM Adj. Fuel Pressure Regulator
AEM Fuel Rail
720cc RC Fuel Injectors

IGNITION SYSTEM:
MSD Digital 6AL Ignition w/ external Coil
MSD Rotor Cap
Magnecor 9mm Spark Plug Wires
NGK Spark Plugs

ELECTRONICS:
Apex Power FC Fuel Managment System Tuned by XS Engineering
Blitz Dual Stage Turbo Timer
Autometer A/F gauge
Greddy 60mm Boost Gauge
Boost Controller installed on Power FC Command Unit

SUSPENSION / BRAKING:
Comptech .75 Drop Springs
Bilstein Sport Struts
Russell Steel Braided Brake Lines
Powerstop Slotted Rotors
Axxis Brake Pads
Comptech Strut Tower Bar

Anything can be fast, but you can't just say since it's Honda it is slow. This Integra will stomp most of the modded FDs on this forum with the exception of the big singles or finely tuned BNR stage 3's or M2 Twins. Just know that there are cars out there that will surprise you and are not rice.

Cetchup

edit: it is a XS T04S turbo

MaxBoost

Hey tell your brother to swith out his AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator...there not doing to well on turbo hondas....i had one on my turbo integ and it busted and flooded my engine with fuel and almost caused me some bent rods ...the same incident happend to a turbo civic....oh and by the way nice setup..any hp #'s for your bro's teg

von

Hey dont get offended because people are saying hondas are slow. THEY ARE> Face it. So are Miatas !!!!

Oh wait Miatas can be fast to , Look at Monster Miata makes 400rwp on stock engine with custom turbo !!!

Did 10.9 BEAT THAT HONDUUUUUUUUUUu

von

By the way nice run with the civic. Thier pretty fast for the power they make ill give them that. Just dont make much power lol.

600HP CLUB

STOCK CIVIC 3k? 4k for GOOD GS-R MOTOR/TRANNY ECU? 3k for A GOOD TURBO SETUP that's about 10k in all RIGHT? with slicks ran 12.98 at CMI SACRAMENTO RACEWAY, interesting while my friend with a basically stock RX-7 TURBOII, just intake$40 exhaust$600 afc$300 injectors$200 and some little **** that doesn't goes near 10k bit just a little over 4k ran a 12.6 and consistant, with some MickyTs.

o yeah i might add with 10k or so i can prolly hit low 11s with my RX-7.

my friend just did his dyno b20/vtec turbo (ultimate hybrid engine [for honda]) had 260 and 200 ft. tq
(kinda sad that he spend so much while alot of FC turbo's on this board spent less to hit 250hp)

o well to each own i guess.

milkman2k52

yep and even if you do do it right with custom internals and lowered cr with a big turbo, its still wrong wheel drive.

ludeowner

Actually a large majority of the turbo'ed Honda/Acura guys I know do prefer to turbo the DOHC. Even though the DOHC VTECs have higher compression people still turbo their stock motors. By doing that they are able to get slightly more power and better response.

A lot of the SOHC guys I know even the built ones run times and have HP #s which are relatively low when compared to other DOHC motors.

If you ask the guys in www.honda-techs FI forum which they would rather turbo a D16 (SOHC) or a B16 (DOHC) they would probably chose the B16.

thecause17

True, but with that higher compression, it does make it less safe to do so. I know the car can make more power with a turbo set-up than a SOHC, but it is not as safe.

My bro has a boosted SOHC, and he's the one who's told me that they're better to turbo/sc. Maybe that's because he has one.

ludeowner

Believe it or not, a lot of the people that turbo their high comp B or H series motors DO know that it is less safer to turbo with that CR.

All it means is that they have a smaller margin for error when it comes to tuning. That's something these guys (I know) are willing to accept.

thecause17

I never said they didn't know it.

Toomuchboost

There's no such thing as a fast civic.

ludeowner

yeah...ok

rotarypower#1

My daily driver is a 99 Civic Si coupe, and it's wicked fast consdering it only has a few bolt-ons and a built T28 turbo kit, and that turbo is SMALL!!!!
i only run 12psi max cuz i would blow the engine otherwise. i still manage high 13's wit ease.
and if you saw Civic's can't be fast, well my bro's got a '96 civic hatchback with a B16A motor and built bottom end, XS Engineering TO4S turbocharger kit, GReddy FMIC and BOV, tons of other stuff and he is running the 1/4 mile in the mid 10's with a 50 shot of nitrous. and the punchline is it cost him under 14K to do it all, including the cost of the used car. i would love to see a 3rd gen RX-7 do that.....

BTW: i still ove the 7's! Just trying to help out Honda!

piston muncher

QUESTION: why so many Honda people in a Rx7 club?????????????? Besides that, I have a friend with a early model Mistibushi lancer, not an evo. He chucked in a evo engine but since the car is FWD it has heaps of wheel spin. He ran it at the track and only managed a best time of 15's. It doesn't matter about the power as much as getting the power to the ground. This car has adjustable Koni's all round a $4000 setup. It goes to show it ain't how much money you spend it is how wisely you spend it. It get's even more embarassing when he lost to a standard 200sx!

ludeowner

I used to own a Honda Prelude, but I traded it in for a RX7. I also happen to know a lil bit about turbo'ed hondas and acuras (no first hand exp. just lots of reading & research).

EDIT: you should be glad that you have a few honda "experts" that frequent rx7club. We help to clear up some of the common misconceptions about hondas/acuras (ie: there are no fast Hondas). I also clear up any rumors concerning RX7s on www.honda-tech.com