According to Evolution Motorsports the record 1/4 mile Porsche run is a 10.3 @ about 139 mph. If we would assume the 996tt in the video is faster than the best run ever produced by any 996 tt you can use the below calculator page to get an idea what sort of effective uncorrected HP the car might have. Usually mph calculators are pretty close.

http://www.pro-system.com/calc.html

The Porsche is going to be about 3700 lbs with a driver. I think an FD with a V8 is going to be about 3000 lbs. We're talking about an FD V8 right?

960 HP from 3700 lbs (996tt) = 778 HP from 3000 lbs (FD V8)

616 HP from 3700 lbs (996tt) = 500 HP from 3000 lbs (FD V8)

We've seen the dyno sheet for the V8 FD. I'd say the Porsche in the Video is putting down about 600 wheel HP if that FD was giving it all it had.

 

I Hate to burst your bubble but that dyno isn't from the car in the video, it's the owners car at Evolution and it's not street legal.

Did anyone pay attention to the drag car numbers, which I posted a couple posts back? (The records and the hp numbers?)

There is no way the car in the video was making 950 rwhp.

 

Why would a V8 fd be 400lbs more? I thought the aluminum SBC's weren't that much heavier. And a driver shouldn't weigh more than 180 ish.I was think 2900 lb's with driver, being pretty conservative towards the heavy side.

 

The curb weight of an FD is around 2800 lbs, give or take a bit depending on model. Curb weight is car with full tank of gas no driver. Put a guy in there with a half tank of gas and it's about 2900 lbs. I'm guessing a V8 is a touch more in weight than a twin turbo dual rotor.

 

Yes, it made ZERO sense a 500 rwhp FD was hanging with a 950 rwhp 911TT. Power to weight (as Greg also pointed out) was waaaaaay off kilter. Thanks for speaking with Evo. As Reagan once said, "Trust but verify"

-Matt

 

I never said it was the same car. A few guys on this thread was calling b.s. that a porsche cant make that much power. The LS2 fd isnt street legal either.

 

I just saw this post.

My ls2 makes 489rwhp corrected and 507 uncorrected

My car runs 135mph na in the 1/4
and 143mph with the 75 shot
the 996tt was on 1.5 bar when he raced me and he was running 116 gas

Here is a old na run
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...6E04C5E2C4.htm

 

Some of you say no way that "911tt is 950 rwhp" and ****. Well, I guess it isn't since it is a 996tt and AWD.

 

Great math, but the Porshce was around 850 from what he thinks, and the FD was 507 with a 75 shot, so guessing almost 600. So yeah, thats about right. No matter what you guys think it was putting down, I think the people who actually raced know the truth

 

Actually it isn't because "Sharky" took his car to a shop to get it modified and the shop with the fastest 996 tt that holds the 1/4 mile record agreed. The dyno posted here is also from another "race car".

 

I think I was making 75000 hp this morning when the air was cool outside...

Did the same guy also say he had over $100,000 in just the motor alone? Funny as Evolution will pull the motor, completely rebuild it and install their GT900 kit for half of that.

Would you like to buy some land in Florida?

 

LoL, this thread is funny. Its not all about hp, what if the dude cant drive?

 

I like the toothless "West Virginy" icon you posted. Now THAT... was funny!

-Matt

 

 

I was watching some of your video. Thank you for sharing. Your times that I saw were.

1/8 mile 7.361 @ 96.96 mph, 1/4 mile 11.6 @ 94.65 mph ? must have let off no NOS?

1/8 mile 7.369 @ 100.97 mph, 1/4 mile 11.169 @ 131.12 mph with NOS?

1/4 mile 10.92 @ 131.6 mph, with NOS?

Your car no doubt is a quick rolling start street machine, but it looks as if you have a low 11 high 10 car that's hard to hook up. The speed of those runs would be about the same as a 650 wheel HP 996tt if it had a good driver.

Here's a page with the 1/8 mile to 1/4 mile estimator and some other calculators to put things into perspective. Maybe you weren't spraying in any of your video, but that 1/8 mile speed jump of 4 mph seems about right for a 75 NOS shot. Then again if you were pulling 141 mph in the 1/4 you would be driving a 3000 lb car in the 656 HP range with mid 9s in the 1/4. Do you have a video of that?

http://www.tciauto.com/tech_info/calculators.htm#2

If the numbers add up the 996 tt in the video was around 650 HP.

 

His car weighs around 2900 I would guess, and makes over 600 hp on the shot, so yeah, it could trap 140's.

 

Yeah, that Porsche couldn't be making much power, it is a piece of ****, and Gary Javo's old Viper isn't a 9 sec. car and doesn't make near 1000 whp.

 

Just use those calculators. 1/8 mile speeds between 96 and 100 mph generally don't move your 1/4 mile speed to 143 miles per hour with only 75 more HP. I say he's got a secret weapon of a 150+ shot. With this things would make some sence. That would put the Porsche in the video around 850 HP if the FD V8 was putting down 143 mph 1/4 mile performance for those rolling punches.

I'm not trying to cause problems, but just play with some numbers for fun.

 

Here's the Viper at the drags. It's a 10.9 @ 146 mph. That's crazy fast speed for such a high time.

http://www.dragtimes.com/2004-Dodge-...deos-7353.html

 

Yeah, because he is running street tires.

 

Yeah, 96 and 100 aren't good for 143, but I would get he wasn't spraying. I think that 143 mph run was a 100 shot. And the Porsche is around 850, and the FD does put down 143 in the 1/4. So there, its solved!

 

All of the video was on the motor and shifting at 5k and not 6900. The motor was being broken in in the video. The car runs 10.8@135 and 104mph 1/8 on the motor shifting at 6900. On the 75 shot it runs 107-108mph 1/8 and 143mph 1/4.

 

I have an FD with stock 346ci shortblock LS1 with ported heads/big cam/headers and stock LS6 intake running 99.9mph in the 1/8th and nearly 128mph in the 1/4 on 91 octane. With a 150hp shot hopefully in March I'll run some mid 140's. It is 2950lbs with driver and full tank of gas.

Mas280 has a 402ci LS2 with baby cam and ported heads that aren't perfectly matched (too small of runners) with an upgraded FAST intake running low/mid 130's on pump 91 octane. With the small 75hp nitrous shot it runs low 140's and mid 10's. On a bigger shot it would go easy 150's. I'm sure in 2006 he will optimize this combo.

If you guys have ever seen a dyno graph of a car with nitrous and then one with forced induction.... the nitrous car makes a crap load of torque and near full power right when the nitrous is activated. Meaning more power under the curve. That is why Mas280's car is keeping up with these higher peak hp cars. Being about 600lbs+ lighter is helping him as well. He is making close to 700rwtq from probably 3K-7K. It pulls like a freight train.

Alex has a rebuilt motor for lots of boost, upgraded everything (turbos/intercooler etc), I believe Motec fuel management on the car, an insanely expensive stereo, a very high dollar clutch setup and much much more. The first time he tried to launch with any boost at the local dragstrip he broke. I believe it was the transaxle ($$$$).

The Viper supposedly makes 950rwhp on C16 and high boost setting (AEM engine management). It is essentially tapped out at this level with the current fuel system, turbo/manifold design, and stock shortblock; hence the reasoning for Gary Javo to sell the car as he wanted to go faster. These cars are know to trap well but never seem to et very well (aside from Chad's 8 second yellow TTViper). Most mortals can't get them to et well. There are quite a few Vipers that run low 10's@150mph. That mph is good for a low 9...

2006 will have some more videos with this rematch once again. And the results will be a bit different. That I can guarantee you.

 

Did somebody say the Porsche was a piece of shi#? Please show me where anybody here said that.
Did anybody say it wasn't making "much" power? Please show me where anybody here said that.

Reading comprehension is critical. Many here, including myself said it wasn't making 950 rwhp, it wasn't.

Secondly, everybody here knows about Gary Javo and his Vipers, old news. I posted those video's last year.

BTW: I still have that land in Florida are you interested?

 

Also of note... anyone that knows Hayabusas knows that they run high 9's stock@140mph+. So if that one in the video that is turbo'd racing Gary's TTViper was working correctly it should've run 8's and smoked that car with 160mph+ trap speeds vs. the Vipers 150mphish trap speed.

That video has been surrounded by a lot of controversy.

Mr RX-7TT- Protomotive has been the big dog on the block for quite some time in the Porsche world. And they charge a ton because they do good work...and because they can . Just like Duttweiller, Lingenfelter, Hennessey etc. The guys that can afford these supercars and then want to modify them to the stratosphere are in the "more money than brains club" and want results that are repeatable.