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1wide7- a 600cc bike can be beat by a under 400hp car from a 60 roll on. I have raced all, kawi's, gsxr's, r6's, 600rr's, with good riders on them, friends of mine that track their bikes and power shift.
From a dig you better do a 1/2 mile or mile run, you WILL catch him up top...
From a dig you better do a 1/2 mile or mile run, you WILL catch him up top...
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It proves that the car with more power couldnt beat it, so theres no way a car with less power would beat a newer 600 with a decent rider. Which was my point from the very begining because the OP's car has less than 400.
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Show me a car that has 500-600 whp and is within 5 cars of a liter bike from 60 to 140, lol. U will need to bring a lot more power than that.
Torque rules at the drag strip, but in a high speed roll-on, it's all about sheer horsepower, Cd, and frontal area. With the same hp, the race should be equal - added torque means zip at 180 hp, if anything the increased friction of 8 pistons slinging around is a hindrance, relative to the rotary momentum machine.
To the OP, nice take down. Whether or not the rider was inexperienced, it happened and i imagine it was a lot of fun!!!
-Austin
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Here's one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60gMU...eature=related
You dont seem to understand that a 400hp rotary FD makes 400hp and 300(?) ft/lbs of torque. While a V8 FD makes 400 hp and 400 ft/lbs of torque. Even from a roll, an Aluminum block V8 car is going to have the advantage. You keep refering to cars doing 180, not very often do u actually see people racing that high on the streets.
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I'm in the busa territory. I've raped 600's, 750's, 900rr, r1's, etc. I ran a few busas the other night. Got walked atleast 3 bike lengths, but all of a sudden, he stopped pulling. We were dead even... he still was 3 lengths ahead but he wasnt leaving me and I wasn't catching him. Guess i was in my peak power band and he was losing on the top end. Don't know how fast I was going, but I topped out 4th shifting at 8k and tapped it into 5th just for **** and giggles. I have the short 5th gear. At 14.7psi I did 394hp on a dyno dynamics. I'm running 17psi when I raced the bike.
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Is that why forum members have trapped 126 on the twins?
There are plenty of videos here on the forum where RX-7's beat bikes. I remember watching a single turbo RX-7 beat a Hayabusa on a roll, do a search.
Here's one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60gMU...eature=related
You don't seem to understand it's where that torque is and how long that power band is.
There are plenty of videos here on the forum where RX-7's beat bikes. I remember watching a single turbo RX-7 beat a Hayabusa on a roll, do a search.
Here's one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60gMU...eature=related
You don't seem to understand it's where that torque is and how long that power band is.
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the video you posted is of an rx7 making more than 500whp so it dosent pertain to any of the previous post's.
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you dont seem to understand rotary vs V8 torque isnt even close when there making the same power
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Ok, so there are a handful of cars on this forum that have trapped higher. MOST 400 hp rotary Fd's will trap 120-122. If a twin turbo FD had nuts, u would be on them 24-7. I remember getting into an arguement with you like 2 years ago, about twins cars vs. Zo6's.
You can not honestly believe that an Rx-7 will beat a properly riden busa from a roll do you? Im talking about a 40/60-140 roll. We can all agree that a busa, which traps around 140mph will roll out on a 126 mph twins car.
Lol, i own an LS car, i think i understand. I think that you and i should meet somewhere around the MD/VA line and get runs on tape to help settle some of these disputes between v8's and rotary cars. I dont know what your experiences are with v8 FD's, but i can promise you that if you bring a 126mph car, im going to be at your door the whole time. And my car will be making less power than you.
I believe the arguement that 1wide7 was trying to make is that a PROPERLY riden(newer) 600cc bike will beat 99% of the 400hp fd's around. Except for your super fast twin turbo FD of course.
And i beat your car on 20psi when i was probably making 350 whp. I will not beat a properly riden 750cc bike and neither will your car. Im not saying you havnt before, just that it wasnt properly riden. Sorry Rich.
-Austin
I believe the arguement that 1wide7 was trying to make is that a PROPERLY riden(newer) 600cc bike will beat 99% of the 400hp fd's around. Except for your super fast twin turbo FD of course.
-Austin
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Lol, i own an LS car, i think i understand. I think that you and i should meet somewhere around the MD/VA line and get runs on tape to help settle some of these disputes between v8's and rotary cars. I dont know what your experiences are with v8 FD's, but i can promise you that if you bring a 126mph car, im going to be at your door the whole time. And my car will be making less power than you.
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http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/tec...efficient.html
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0106_aero/index.html
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See below:
Originally Posted by YOUR QUOTE
Show me a car that has 500-600 whp and is within 5 cars of a liter bike from 60 to 140, lol. U will need to bring a lot more power than that.
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Also, to clarify a little. When i raced Goodfella's FD he was having some boost trouble, which is the only reason that i beat him at the time. Since obviously a 480rwhp FD should easily out run a 350whp Fd. Just goes to show that even a slower can win sometimes because of other outside reasons.
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Now that's a great retort.
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Who is confused? You can't make this stuff up.
Also, to clarify a little. When i raced Goodfella's FD he was having some boost trouble, which is the only reason that i beat him at the time. Since obviously a 480rwhp FD should easily out run a 350whp Fd. Just goes to show that even a slower can win sometimes because of other outside reasons.
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Kid huh? Maybe you should take your own advise on that one bud. I have no problem continuing this debate in person, but ur time is far too valuable to do that. All i have seen you do is run your mouth from behind your keyboard. So, to me you are nothing but an internet warrior.
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Uh, no kidding you made that post, that's why I cut and pasted it! Hello???
Who is confused? You can't make this stuff up.
You mean a well running car can actually beat a busted one in a race? What an epiphany! No body would have ever come to that brilliant deduction!
Who is confused? You can't make this stuff up.
You mean a well running car can actually beat a busted one in a race? What an epiphany! No body would have ever come to that brilliant deduction!
Are you saying that GoodfellaFD3S's car is busted? Have you seen his car? It is extremely far from busted. Or maybe you are trying to say that my car is the busted one? Lol, i guess my busted, weak *** ls1 car is enough to scare you off though. Since you have made it obvious that you dont want to meet to actaully see what car is faster. I'll be down at MIR the first weekend in November for an event. You should make the trip up for it.
-Austin
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Funny thing is that if everyone was at an RX-7 meet they'd probably be having a face-to-face, productive and respectful debate.
Thread closed...... I'm going to go wrench on my slow, busted-*** FD
Thread closed...... I'm going to go wrench on my slow, busted-*** FD
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