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GoodfellaFD3S 08-11-06 09:43 PM

Update:

Made some runs tonight and leaned AFRs from 10.8 to 11.3. Night and day difference, car felt nice and smooth at 1 bar boost right to 8k rpms. Felt good to actually shift at redline and stay in the powerband.

Now I just have to up the boost to 18 psi.

Ihor, how about we go from a dig? zero to 150 :).

Improved FD 08-12-06 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Update:

Made some runs tonight and leaned AFRs from 10.8 to 11.3. Night and day difference, car felt nice and smooth at 1 bar boost right to 8k rpms. Felt good to actually shift at redline and stay in the powerband.

Now I just have to up the boost to 18 psi.

Ihor, how about we go from a dig? zero to 150 :).

:bigthumb:

kick his ass, Rich

darkphantom 08-12-06 08:57 AM

you run 17.5 psi all day?

and what boost your car starts to spool?


nice runs

IRPerformance 08-12-06 11:23 AM

Ok, where can we do this though? Gonna need alot of road.

audiobot7 08-12-06 11:25 AM

Kick his a$$ Ihor! :)

NeedFD 08-12-06 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by audiobot7
Kick his a$$ Ihor! :)

kick yo mamas ass

GoodfellaFD3S 08-12-06 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by darkphantom
you run 17.5 psi all day?

and what boost your car starts to spool?


nice runs

usually run 1 bar (14.5) due to the shitty quality of pump gas. Even with the water injection I'm hesitant to crank the boost up to 17 or 18.

Boost is gear dependent, but the car makes about 10 psi by 3800 and 15-17 psi by 4300, give or take a bit.

Ihor, I'll ask my brother if he knows of a place.

Improved FD 08-12-06 06:39 PM

0 to 170 would be more interesting :)

I'm guesing the Mustang falls on it's face like the one dimensional boat anchor it really is at about 155

put some 100 octane race gas in it and let her rip (I just filled up with 100 myself for BDC tuning and tried not to watch the dollars as they scrolled past at light speed, ha)

GoodfellaFD3S 08-12-06 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Improved FD
0 to 170 would be more interesting :)

I'm guesing the Mustang falls on it's face like the one dimensional boat anchor it really is at about 155

put some 100 octane race gas in it and let her rip (I just filled up with 100 myself for BDC tuning and tried not to watch the dollars as they scrolled past at light speed, ha)

It will be hard enough finding a road to safely get up to 150. Honestly, Ihor's mustang isn't a bad car, it's definitely very fast in a straight line. You've got to respect the power he's made with a minimum of mods.

How did the tuning come out? If I can find a local source for 100 octane I may end up using it all the time.....

rajahFD 08-12-06 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Improved FD
0 to 170 would be more interesting :)

I'm guesing the Mustang falls on it's face like the one dimensional boat anchor it really is at about 155

put some 100 octane race gas in it and let her rip (I just filled up with 100 myself for BDC tuning and tried not to watch the dollars as they scrolled past at light speed, ha)

how about 0 to 1 million while you're at it? :rolleyes:

i even think 0-150 is over doing it, you cars will not trap any higher than 120-30ish, so why even push it way past the quarter?

dangerous and stupid if you ask me, but be safe and good luck to both.

Improved FD 08-12-06 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
It will be hard enough finding a road to safely get up to 150.

his blower might hold together up to 150...or the belt might fly off :)


Honestly, Ihor's mustang isn't a bad car, it's definitely very fast in a straight line. You've got to respect the power he's made with a minimum of mods.
and that's why I don't really respect those cars, they are pretty mindless, and essentially ubiquitous...as i indicated previously, I can make a VW Bus fast in a straight line, who really cares? I've been in a 9 second Keith Black big block Camaro that would gobble up his little factory pony car for breakfast, but life is more than straight lines (at least in terms of motorsports)


How did the tuning come out?
just getting into it, brian is very detailed and he tunes for overall street performance, not just max load


If I can find a local source for 100 octane I may end up using it all the time.....
hope you have plenty of surplus on the credit card :)

Improved FD 08-12-06 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by rastarajah
i even think 0-150 is over doing it, you cars will not trap any higher than 120-30ish, so why even push it way past the quarter?

more to life than trap speed....alot more

"dude, what did you trap??" :rolleyes:

is it just me, or is drag racing only slightly more intelligent than NASCAR?

but I love John Force

Boostn7 08-12-06 08:04 PM

Come one guys....let's not ruin this friendly race.

I don't see a need to go into 5th gear. From a dig to ~140 or top of 4th gear.
or rolling race...2nd or 3rd gear to end 4th >>>>> on an empty highway.
Not sure of the Cobra's gearing, Ihor what does your 4th top out at?

That will show the potential of both cars based on HP and weight......and driver:-)

Let me know when it goes down.
I'll represent the rotary side on pump gas or camera car....does not matter.

Nice to hear Rich has the car ready for battle !!!

Ihor is probably installing some NAZZZZZ to make sure no rotary gets in front of him....(Hehehehehe....only kiddin').

rajahFD 08-12-06 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Improved FD
more to life than trap speed....alot more

"dude, what did you trap??" :rolleyes:

is it just me, or is drag racing only slightly more intelligent than NASCAR?

but I love John Force

It's just stupid to say "oh! how about 170mph?!?!?!!" and yes, trap speeds are what matter on the streets, unless you have the 1/4 marked off, or even if you ahead by a few lengths the smart thing to do is to just slow down and stop racing yourself.

and stop name calling on other cars because it doesn't meet YOUR standards, other people obviously have diferent needs than yours.

that's a nice cobra, stop being a prick all the time and give credit where it's due even if you don't like what it is, all you're doing here is stirring things with your name calling.

Goodfella, when are you guys running again or is anything planned?

remember, just be safe and don't listen to Improved. :)

Improved FD 08-12-06 08:44 PM

stop being a butthead and blabbing on about trap speed

if you love Mustangs so much, why are you here?

razorback 08-12-06 08:57 PM

shut up yzf, quit turing this thread into a shitfest.

rajahFD 08-12-06 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Improved FD
stop being a butthead and blabbing on about trap speed

if you love Mustangs so much, why are you here?

:rolleyes:

go make some more troll username's.

I'm done in this thread, good luck to rotary experimental seven and goodfella. :icon_tup:

Improved FD 08-12-06 09:01 PM

good, get on your pony and hit the road

Improved FD 08-12-06 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by rastarajah
It's just stupid to say "oh! how about 170mph?!?!?!!"

did you notice the smiley? it was only half serious, although the FD has superior aerodynamics and is considerably smaller


and yes, trap speeds are what matter on the streets
say who, you? I'll race you in the mountains here in NC and your trap speeds won't mean jack


and stop name calling on other cars because it doesn't meet YOUR standards, other people obviously have diferent needs than yours.
I'm entitled to my opinion, kiss my ass

rajahFD 08-12-06 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Improved FD
did you notice the smiley? it was only half serious, although the FD has superior aerodynamics and is considerably smaller

lol ok

say who, you?
says a lot of people.

I'll race you in the mountains here in NC and your trap speeds won't mean jack
lol yeah dude, i'm pretty sure you're the type of guy that when he gets his ass handed to him in a straight line automatically throws out, "oh! how about we race in the twisties!" or even better.. "my car isn't meant for straight line performance" :rofl:


I'm entitled to my opinion, kiss my ass
But when your "opinion" is retarded, it doesn't matter and should not be posted.

matty 08-12-06 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Ihor's mustang isn't a bad car, it's definitely very fast in a straight line. You've got to respect the power he's made with a minimum of mods.
...

thats one thing i always respected about the 03 cobras.....little money in mods yields huge benefits. I dont think anyone could deny that.

matty 08-12-06 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Improved FD
say who, you? I'll race you in the mountains here in NC and your trap speeds won't mean jack


we are talking about strightline perfomance here....how many people need to tell u how important trap speed is when roll racing before you beleive it?

several people have including one guy that has done some pretty impressive things with his rx7. please dont call me names i am trying to help you cause u are embarrassing yourself.

Improved FD 08-12-06 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by rastarajah
lol yeah dude, i'm pretty sure you're the type of guy that when he gets his ass handed to him in a straight line automatically throws out, "oh! how about we race in the twisties!" or even better.. "my car isn't meant for straight line performance"

on the contrary, I smoke mustangs and f-bodies in a straight line, every time, and they don't dare to touch me on a mountain road


But when your "opinion" is retarded
speak for yourself

Improved FD 08-12-06 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by matty
we are talking about strightline perfomance here....how many people need to tell u how important trap speed is when roll racing before you beleive it?

again, unless you're talking about a race from a stop (which we haven't until recently), trap speed is not a unversal "band aid" measure of performance!
http://www.spiretech.com/~pk-lk/pat/road-load.htm

rajahFD 08-12-06 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Improved FD
on the contrary, I smoke mustangs and f-bodies in a straight line, every time, and they don't dare to touch me on a mountain road

good job! now, pat yourself on the back with a 2X4.


speak for yourself
nope, i'll speak for you. :)

Improved FD 08-12-06 09:47 PM

you're mexican, aren't ya?

rajahFD 08-12-06 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by Improved FD
you're mexican, aren't ya?

what difference does it make?

see how low you have to stoop to try to dig yourself out of a hole?

Pathetic, just die, troll.

Improved FD 08-12-06 10:03 PM

I like having fun with dumb mexicans....let's keep rollin, asshole

rajahFD 08-12-06 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Improved FD
I like having fun with dumb mexicans....let's keep rollin, asshole

www.bible.com

21K95RX7 08-12-06 10:14 PM

alrite guys lets put the e-dicks away...im sure rich and ihor will be racing again quite soon so lets stop with the woulda, coulda, shoulda, trap speed this, trap speed that, dumb mexican this and that. :)

razorback 08-12-06 10:19 PM

ironically enough yzf is about the same height as a troll.

rajahFD 08-12-06 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by razorback
ironically enough yzf is about the same height as a troll.

holy shit! :rofl: :rofl:

GoodfellaFD3S 08-12-06 11:11 PM

Take all of that shit to the lounge guys.

Improved FD 08-12-06 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by rastarajah
----

I'm taller than most mexicans...5'11" :)

of course, some people like to play with photoshop

IRPerformance 08-13-06 01:24 AM

Thats funny, being that most people aren't even skilled enough drivers to take a car such as the rx-7 to the handling limit. Turns don't scare me.

audiobot7 08-13-06 06:05 AM

I'll beat rastarajah's mom in the straight line and the mountain!! Beat that! :balls: :rlaugh:


























jk roger, dont cry! :)

amp 08-13-06 08:19 AM

yall should keep it on track where there are no excuses...
and id be able to get in on the fun.. be a good benchmark..

G's 3rd Gen 08-13-06 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Take all of that shit to the lounge guys.

+1...until next time.

GoodfellaFD3S 08-13-06 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by amp
yall should keep it on track where there are no excuses...
and id be able to get in on the fun.. be a good benchmark..

Maybe. Drag racing leaves a lot of variables b/c of launching, plus due to the inevitable heat and traction problems at the strip my FD never does well at strips. We may just stick to some 20-140 roll ons......

IRPerformance 08-13-06 12:03 PM

Highway pulls are fine for me.

Improved FD 08-13-06 02:28 PM

call ErnieT :bigthumb:

BLitzed33 08-13-06 03:24 PM

Hey Rich, good luck with the race, same with Ihor, it will be fun to see the new outcome. Alot of trash talking between people who aren't even racing, funny. As far as trap speeds and 1/4 mile goes, another tech at at my work has a 240Z, trapped 12.6@99 mph with 200 whp on nitrous ..its not that his car has crazy hp, but it hooks up and is geared really low and he can drive really good...and usually the car he is racing traps higher MPH times just because its making more power...I believe his new motor setup dyno'ed 174 hp to the wheels on motor and 270 whp on nitrous. Another advantage is his car weighs 2475 lbs with driver. And about the comment with Mexicans, what does that have to do with anything?? I am South Korean, Steve Kan is chinese, Ray wilson is half Vietnamese, Ramy is middle eastern, so would you use race as a point of attack if you had a arguement or disagreement of opinion with them??Arguements/disagreements should be based on other things than that my friend.

Naw, ErnieT's car is still "under construction" I run race gas just because I know I wont have to worry about bad gas, can run the high boost when I want, and my car is not my daily driver so I dont care about cost.

Improved FD 08-13-06 05:58 PM

looks like a nice car

matty 08-13-06 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Maybe. Drag racing leaves a lot of variables b/c of launching, plus due to the inevitable heat and traction problems at the strip my FD never does well at strips. We may just stick to some 20-140 roll ons......

i agree....drag racing is a waste of time unless u have et streets or drag radials. but i still like to go to see what i can trap with the mods that i have.

darkphantom 08-14-06 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
usually run 1 bar (14.5) due to the shitty quality of pump gas. Even with the water injection I'm hesitant to crank the boost up to 17 or 18.

Boost is gear dependent, but the car makes about 10 psi by 3800 and 15-17 psi by 4300, give or take a bit.

Ihor, I'll ask my brother if he knows of a place.



FUNNY YOUR TWINS SPOOL A LITTLE EARILER THAN MY SINGLE (4250RPM.

adrock3217 08-14-06 07:06 PM

^^^ Funny, your caps lock spools a LOT faster than mine...uh oh..THERE IT IS. CAPS LOCK ON!

GoodfellaFD3S 08-14-06 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by darkphantom
FUNNY YOUR TWINS SPOOL A LITTLE EARILER THAN MY SINGLE (4250RPM.

You're running a half bridge, I have a streetport.

21K95RX7 08-15-06 12:14 AM

hmm didn't realize porting effected the spool of a turbo...anybody have a link where i can get some info?

darkphantom 08-15-06 04:51 PM

STREET PORT 2900-7700RPM powerband with a 8-900rpm idle

1/2 bridge 4-8500rpm powerband with a 1300-1700rpm idle

full bridge 5600-9200rpm powerband with a 21-2480rpm idle

Peripheral/race port 6300-10500rpm powerband with a 27-3100 idle

1QWIK7 08-15-06 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by darkphantom
STREET PORT 2900-7700RPM powerband with a 8-900rpm idle

1/2 bridge 4-8500rpm powerband with a 1300-1700rpm idle

full bridge 5600-9200rpm powerband with a 21-2480rpm idle

Peripheral/race port 6300-10500rpm powerband with a 27-3100 idle


Thats good info.

Thanks


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