I got beat.... :(
03-13-07, 05:51 PM
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i just saw a recent uploaded vid on youtube of a s4, g35, and a fd..that didnt happen to be you did it AWD racer?
edit: heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGeEmP8_eFw
edit: heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGeEmP8_eFw
03-13-07, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BackyardSog
Just like your a professional tuner and builder (taught from the best in the country)? 
Instead of using physics and the way the real world works, we should just consult with you because you have seen, built, and tuned everything.
Instead of using physics and the way the real world works, we should just consult with you because you have seen, built, and tuned everything.
lol! I was thinking the same thing
Edit: it's hillarious how there are few people on here that are all butt hurt from previous threads. lol
03-13-07, 06:32 PM
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lol the typical clowns that know jack **** are here. once again there will be no need for us to humilate any of you as u fools will do it on your own.
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03-13-07, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD-RWD racer
doesnt torque have anything to do with racing? most piston engine cars have more than our rotary cars.
in most cases its really quite simple 100 rwhp = 1k lbs. if u make 320 then the audi needs 420.
whats done to your car to make 320 rwhp? have u taken ur car to the track to get a trap speed? is your engine pulling good vacuum? does your engine have 100k miles on it? is the rest of the car in good mechanical shape?.....basically i am asking does ur car run right? it already sounds like it doesnt.
People these cars are 14 yrs old. not many run right these days and are owned by complete fast and furious jack asses that dont have a clue. get your car running right then race the thing if thats what u like to do.
03-13-07, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
power to weight really dosint mean that much. look at drag bikes to drag cars.. the cars with the worse powet to weight kill the bikes...
now we are gonna use a comparison of a bike vs a car to form educated conclusions. come on man lets keep it apples to apples here. or is your post a joke? power to weight is 99% of the comparison when talking about sports cars. hey i got an idea lets compare an astro van to a lotus elise. that will be very helpful in this discussion.
i have smoked dozens of cars on the street or track that make more rwhp then me. sometimes even 100rwhp more....yeah but weight is meaningless.
03-13-07, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 93ttwankel
vehicle weight
engine power, and the details of the torque or horsepower curve
coefficient of friction of the tires on the track
aerodynamic drag
moment of inertia and frictional loss of moving parts
drivetrain gearing
shifting mechanisms
location of the vehicle's vertical and horizontal center of gravity
driver skill
^
All matter
http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htm
engine power, and the details of the torque or horsepower curve
coefficient of friction of the tires on the track
aerodynamic drag
moment of inertia and frictional loss of moving parts
drivetrain gearing
shifting mechanisms
location of the vehicle's vertical and horizontal center of gravity
driver skill
^
All matter
http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htm
every car that me or my friends own from domestic to imports all run very close to what the physics dictate. this is real world with many many yrs of drag racing and having fun on the street experience.
03-13-07, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ellisjuan
no crap it all matters... it's not THAT important according to other people posting on this board. e.g.: https://www.rx7club.com/racing-kills-lounge-10/streetported-s4-na-vs-2000-pontiac-trans-am-629803/
03-13-07, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by montego
lol! I was thinking the same thing
Edit: it's hillarious how there are few people on here that are all butt hurt from previous threads. lol
Edit: it's hillarious how there are few people on here that are all butt hurt from previous threads. lol
03-13-07, 07:03 PM
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me? man car boats planes astro vans or lotus its the same math. is it not? it is not 99% if you think that you are a moron... its EVERYTHING its not just 1 thing.. i never said it didint matter i just said. "it didint matter that much". caz everything plays a roll in it.. other wise if it was only about or99% about power to weight bikes would always win... and is this true? no its not and if it is plz explane to me caz i guess im slow.....
03-13-07, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
me? man car boats planes astro vans or lotus its the same math. is it not? it is not 99% if you think that you are a moron... its EVERYTHING its not just 1 thing.. i never said it didint matter i just said. "it didint matter that much". caz everything plays a roll in it.. other wise if it was only about or99% about power to weight bikes would always win... and is this true? no its not and if it is plz explane to me caz i guess im slow.....
03-14-07, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ITS N STI
Nah dude, P:W is all you need to know when looking at who's going to win a race. You're an IDIOT for thinking otherwise. God made power to weight for a reason, and that's so FD's could win races.
yeah you are pretty much dumb in that statment.. last time i checked traction has alot to do with it also... lets say your car weighs 1800 lbs and makes 400hp but you have no traction witch means you are spinning. your power to weight didint help very much seen as you cant get the power to the ground. there are lots of cases like this.. also come down to driver (not every1 is a race car driver like you) power to weight didint help much when you missed 3rd and went to 5th... there is much much more to a car and racing then power to weight... power to weight dose play a roll in it.. like i said b4 im not saying it dosent matter. but its not as big of a roll as you think it is. its not even half of it
but sence you think it is such a big roll even the most importanet thing tell me why a bike with better power to weight will lose against a car with worse power to weight????? or why a turbo CRX making 600+ hp is a 10 sec car and a mustang making 500+ hp is a 9 sec car can you plz tell me why? the power to weight is better for the CRX....
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03-14-07, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
yeah you are pretty much dumb in that statment.. last time i checked traction has alot to do with it also... lets say your car weighs 1800 lbs and makes 400hp but you have no traction witch means you are spinning. your power to weight didint help very much seen as you cant get the power to the ground. there are lots of cases like this.. also come down to driver (not every1 is a race car driver like you) power to weight didint help much when you missed 3rd and went to 5th... there is much much more to a car and racing then power to weight... power to weight dose play a roll in it.. like i said b4 im not saying it dosent matter. but its not as big of a roll as you think it is. its not even half of it
but sence you think it is such a big roll even the most importanet thing tell me why a bike with better power to weight will lose against a car with worse power to weight????? or why a turbo CRX making 600+ hp is a 10 sec car and a mustang making 500+ hp is a 9 sec car can you plz tell me why? the power to weight is better for the CRX....
but sence you think it is such a big roll even the most importanet thing tell me why a bike with better power to weight will lose against a car with worse power to weight????? or why a turbo CRX making 600+ hp is a 10 sec car and a mustang making 500+ hp is a 9 sec car can you plz tell me why? the power to weight is better for the CRX....
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower2.htm
Do these 600+/ 500+ hp cars really exist? Because from a 40-130 mph the CRX is going to win.
03-14-07, 10:45 AM
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mods that i have:
99 twin turbos
split second additional injector controller
2 additional 750cc injectors (mounted on greddy elbow)
Greddy profec 2 spec b boost controller
greddy elbow
greddy 2 row front mount intercooler
HKS racing suction intakes
koyo rad
b&m short shifter w/momo shift ****
all new vac lines and rad hoses
aluminum ast
m2 down pipe
megan racing midpipe
racing beat single tip cat back
aem uego wideband
autometer boost gauge
center 2pod gauge holder (goes where center speaker goes)
dimpled/slotted rotors
eibach lowering springs
koni yellow struts
RE rear toe links
the car ran a 12.6 @ 117 mph
99 twin turbos
split second additional injector controller
2 additional 750cc injectors (mounted on greddy elbow)
Greddy profec 2 spec b boost controller
greddy elbow
greddy 2 row front mount intercooler
HKS racing suction intakes
koyo rad
b&m short shifter w/momo shift ****
all new vac lines and rad hoses
aluminum ast
m2 down pipe
megan racing midpipe
racing beat single tip cat back
aem uego wideband
autometer boost gauge
center 2pod gauge holder (goes where center speaker goes)
dimpled/slotted rotors
eibach lowering springs
koni yellow struts
RE rear toe links
the car ran a 12.6 @ 117 mph
03-14-07, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
me? man car boats planes astro vans or lotus its the same math. is it not? it is not 99% if you think that you are a moron... its EVERYTHING its not just 1 thing.. i never said it didint matter i just said. "it didint matter that much". caz everything plays a roll in it.. other wise if it was only about or99% about power to weight bikes would always win... and is this true? no its not and if it is plz explane to me caz i guess im slow.....
03-14-07, 12:20 PM
#44
Originally Posted by BackyardSog
Do you really think two cars with the proper sized tires starting from 40mph like the original poster are going to have a problem with static friction? I may agree with you and the bike but like sombody said before, compare apples to apples.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower2.htm
Do these 600+/ 500+ hp cars really exist? Because from a 40-130 mph the CRX is going to win.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower2.htm
Do these 600+/ 500+ hp cars really exist? Because from a 40-130 mph the CRX is going to win.
it seems to me you are adding more factors into this then power to weight... like i said power to weight matter.. just not as much as you think it dose..other wise you
apples to apples we have a astro van and the lotus we talked about b4..just this time the astro van has work done to it and they both have the same power to weight..from what you said. they should both have the same out come witch is going to have the higher top speed? the lotus you know why aerodynamics the astro van is a flying brick... power to weight didint help at all in this situation did it? how come? caz power to weight is not everything!!!
03-14-07, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
it seems to me you are adding more factors into this then power to weight... like i said power to weight matter.. just not as much as you think it dose..other wise you
apples to apples we have a astro van and the lotus we talked about b4..just this time the astro van has work done to it and they both have the same power to weight..from what you said. they should both have the same out come witch is going to have the higher top speed? the lotus you know why aerodynamics the astro van is a flying brick... power to weight didint help at all in this situation did it? how come? caz power to weight is not everything!!!
apples to apples we have a astro van and the lotus we talked about b4..just this time the astro van has work done to it and they both have the same power to weight..from what you said. they should both have the same out come witch is going to have the higher top speed? the lotus you know why aerodynamics the astro van is a flying brick... power to weight didint help at all in this situation did it? how come? caz power to weight is not everything!!!
03-14-07, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
it seems to me you are adding more factors into this then power to weight... like i said power to weight matter.. just not as much as you think it dose..other wise you
apples to apples we have a astro van and the lotus we talked about b4..just this time the astro van has work done to it and they both have the same power to weight..from what you said. they should both have the same out come witch is going to have the higher top speed? the lotus you know why aerodynamics the astro van is a flying brick... power to weight didint help at all in this situation did it? how come? caz power to weight is not everything!!!
apples to apples we have a astro van and the lotus we talked about b4..just this time the astro van has work done to it and they both have the same power to weight..from what you said. they should both have the same out come witch is going to have the higher top speed? the lotus you know why aerodynamics the astro van is a flying brick... power to weight didint help at all in this situation did it? how come? caz power to weight is not everything!!!
Nice comparison
03-14-07, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD-RWD racer
mods that i have:
99 twin turbos
split second additional injector controller
2 additional 750cc injectors (mounted on greddy elbow)
Greddy profec 2 spec b boost controller
greddy elbow
greddy 2 row front mount intercooler
HKS racing suction intakes
koyo rad
b&m short shifter w/momo shift ****
all new vac lines and rad hoses
aluminum ast
m2 down pipe
megan racing midpipe
racing beat single tip cat back
aem uego wideband
autometer boost gauge
center 2pod gauge holder (goes where center speaker goes)
dimpled/slotted rotors
eibach lowering springs
koni yellow struts
RE rear toe links
the car ran a 12.6 @ 117 mph
99 twin turbos
split second additional injector controller
2 additional 750cc injectors (mounted on greddy elbow)
Greddy profec 2 spec b boost controller
greddy elbow
greddy 2 row front mount intercooler
HKS racing suction intakes
koyo rad
b&m short shifter w/momo shift ****
all new vac lines and rad hoses
aluminum ast
m2 down pipe
megan racing midpipe
racing beat single tip cat back
aem uego wideband
autometer boost gauge
center 2pod gauge holder (goes where center speaker goes)
dimpled/slotted rotors
eibach lowering springs
koni yellow struts
RE rear toe links
the car ran a 12.6 @ 117 mph
thanks