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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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i just saw a recent uploaded vid on youtube of a s4, g35, and a fd..that didnt happen to be you did it AWD racer?


edit: heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGeEmP8_eFw
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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looks like it, good run.

Those modded s4's roll out.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Just like your a professional tuner and builder (taught from the best in the country)?

Instead of using physics and the way the real world works, we should just consult with you because you have seen, built, and tuned everything.

lol! I was thinking the same thing

Edit: it's hillarious how there are few people on here that are all butt hurt from previous threads. lol
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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lol the typical clowns that know jack **** are here. once again there will be no need for us to humilate any of you as u fools will do it on your own.

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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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doesnt torque have anything to do with racing? most piston engine cars have more than our rotary cars.
are u begging for a flame war with that comment. hmmm....not sure if this question is genuine or not. i doubt it.

in most cases its really quite simple 100 rwhp = 1k lbs. if u make 320 then the audi needs 420.

whats done to your car to make 320 rwhp? have u taken ur car to the track to get a trap speed? is your engine pulling good vacuum? does your engine have 100k miles on it? is the rest of the car in good mechanical shape?.....basically i am asking does ur car run right? it already sounds like it doesnt.

People these cars are 14 yrs old. not many run right these days and are owned by complete fast and furious jack asses that dont have a clue. get your car running right then race the thing if thats what u like to do.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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power to weight really dosint mean that much. look at drag bikes to drag cars.. the cars with the worse powet to weight kill the bikes...
i dont mean to flame ...well yes i do....are u a fuckign moron?
now we are gonna use a comparison of a bike vs a car to form educated conclusions. come on man lets keep it apples to apples here. or is your post a joke? power to weight is 99% of the comparison when talking about sports cars. hey i got an idea lets compare an astro van to a lotus elise. that will be very helpful in this discussion.
i have smoked dozens of cars on the street or track that make more rwhp then me. sometimes even 100rwhp more....yeah but weight is meaningless.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 93ttwankel
vehicle weight
engine power, and the details of the torque or horsepower curve
coefficient of friction of the tires on the track
aerodynamic drag
moment of inertia and frictional loss of moving parts
drivetrain gearing
shifting mechanisms
location of the vehicle's vertical and horizontal center of gravity
driver skill
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All matter
http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htm
of course they "matter". but an educated person would say to what degree? power to weight is the largest component to determine a cars accleration potential. the others u listed certainly matter but not nearly as much as power to weight. now if u want to talk extremes like a box shaped vehicle or some sort of strange abnormal gearing then obivously the arguement could change. but lets talk real world...for crying outloud.

every car that me or my friends own from domestic to imports all run very close to what the physics dictate. this is real world with many many yrs of drag racing and having fun on the street experience.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ellisjuan
no crap it all matters... it's not THAT important according to other people posting on this board. e.g.: https://www.rx7club.com/racing-kills-lounge-10/streetported-s4-na-vs-2000-pontiac-trans-am-629803/
despite getting your *** torn out for months on thsi forum u still choose to ignore reality. noone has ever said they dont matter...what smart people are twelling u is that they dont matter nearly not even a fraction as much as power to weight. aero is gonna give u hundreths of a second benefit in a street car. power to weight is gonna give u full seconds. please please dont bring up astro vans and bikes.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by montego
lol! I was thinking the same thing

Edit: it's hillarious how there are few people on here that are all butt hurt from previous threads. lol
yeah i know another funny thing i was thinking about was how all the idiots use each other to feel "smart" or feel "accepted".
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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me? man car boats planes astro vans or lotus its the same math. is it not? it is not 99% if you think that you are a moron... its EVERYTHING its not just 1 thing.. i never said it didint matter i just said. "it didint matter that much". caz everything plays a roll in it.. other wise if it was only about or99% about power to weight bikes would always win... and is this true? no its not and if it is plz explane to me caz i guess im slow.....
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
me? man car boats planes astro vans or lotus its the same math. is it not? it is not 99% if you think that you are a moron... its EVERYTHING its not just 1 thing.. i never said it didint matter i just said. "it didint matter that much". caz everything plays a roll in it.. other wise if it was only about or99% about power to weight bikes would always win... and is this true? no its not and if it is plz explane to me caz i guess im slow.....
Nah dude, P:W is all you need to know when looking at who's going to win a race. You're an IDIOT for thinking otherwise. God made power to weight for a reason, and that's so FD's could win races.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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What was the topic for this thread again?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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Nah dude, P:W is all you need to know when looking at who's going to win a race. You're an IDIOT for thinking otherwise. God made power to weight for a reason, and that's so FD's could win races.

yeah you are pretty much dumb in that statment.. last time i checked traction has alot to do with it also... lets say your car weighs 1800 lbs and makes 400hp but you have no traction witch means you are spinning. your power to weight didint help very much seen as you cant get the power to the ground. there are lots of cases like this.. also come down to driver (not every1 is a race car driver like you) power to weight didint help much when you missed 3rd and went to 5th... there is much much more to a car and racing then power to weight... power to weight dose play a roll in it.. like i said b4 im not saying it dosent matter. but its not as big of a roll as you think it is. its not even half of it

but sence you think it is such a big roll even the most importanet thing tell me why a bike with better power to weight will lose against a car with worse power to weight????? or why a turbo CRX making 600+ hp is a 10 sec car and a mustang making 500+ hp is a 9 sec car can you plz tell me why? the power to weight is better for the CRX....

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
yeah you are pretty much dumb in that statment.. last time i checked traction has alot to do with it also... lets say your car weighs 1800 lbs and makes 400hp but you have no traction witch means you are spinning. your power to weight didint help very much seen as you cant get the power to the ground. there are lots of cases like this.. also come down to driver (not every1 is a race car driver like you) power to weight didint help much when you missed 3rd and went to 5th... there is much much more to a car and racing then power to weight... power to weight dose play a roll in it.. like i said b4 im not saying it dosent matter. but its not as big of a roll as you think it is. its not even half of it

but sence you think it is such a big roll even the most importanet thing tell me why a bike with better power to weight will lose against a car with worse power to weight????? or why a turbo CRX making 600+ hp is a 10 sec car and a mustang making 500+ hp is a 9 sec car can you plz tell me why? the power to weight is better for the CRX....
Do you really think two cars with the proper sized tires starting from 40mph like the original poster are going to have a problem with static friction? I may agree with you and the bike but like sombody said before, compare apples to apples.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower2.htm

Do these 600+/ 500+ hp cars really exist? Because from a 40-130 mph the CRX is going to win.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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racing beat single tip cat back
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the car ran a 12.6 @ 117 mph
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
me? man car boats planes astro vans or lotus its the same math. is it not? it is not 99% if you think that you are a moron... its EVERYTHING its not just 1 thing.. i never said it didint matter i just said. "it didint matter that much". caz everything plays a roll in it.. other wise if it was only about or99% about power to weight bikes would always win... and is this true? no its not and if it is plz explane to me caz i guess im slow.....
ur a dummy. end of discussion for me.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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I love this board. It's the main reason I wake up in the morning. <3<3
we all knew that....u soprry *** son of a bitch.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BackyardSog
Do you really think two cars with the proper sized tires starting from 40mph like the original poster are going to have a problem with static friction? I may agree with you and the bike but like sombody said before, compare apples to apples.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower2.htm

Do these 600+/ 500+ hp cars really exist? Because from a 40-130 mph the CRX is going to win.

it seems to me you are adding more factors into this then power to weight... like i said power to weight matter.. just not as much as you think it dose..other wise you

apples to apples we have a astro van and the lotus we talked about b4..just this time the astro van has work done to it and they both have the same power to weight..from what you said. they should both have the same out come witch is going to have the higher top speed? the lotus you know why aerodynamics the astro van is a flying brick... power to weight didint help at all in this situation did it? how come? caz power to weight is not everything!!!
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
it seems to me you are adding more factors into this then power to weight... like i said power to weight matter.. just not as much as you think it dose..other wise you

apples to apples we have a astro van and the lotus we talked about b4..just this time the astro van has work done to it and they both have the same power to weight..from what you said. they should both have the same out come witch is going to have the higher top speed? the lotus you know why aerodynamics the astro van is a flying brick... power to weight didint help at all in this situation did it? how come? caz power to weight is not everything!!!
did u graduate from grammar school? if u compare extremes or things out of the realm of reality u are going to arive at conclusions that are extreme or not realistic. thus people try to .....ah forget it man. this is basic ****..whats wriong with u?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
it seems to me you are adding more factors into this then power to weight... like i said power to weight matter.. just not as much as you think it dose..other wise you

apples to apples we have a astro van and the lotus we talked about b4..just this time the astro van has work done to it and they both have the same power to weight..from what you said. they should both have the same out come witch is going to have the higher top speed? the lotus you know why aerodynamics the astro van is a flying brick... power to weight didint help at all in this situation did it? how come? caz power to weight is not everything!!!


Nice comparison
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD-RWD racer
mods that i have:
99 twin turbos
split second additional injector controller
2 additional 750cc injectors (mounted on greddy elbow)
Greddy profec 2 spec b boost controller
greddy elbow
greddy 2 row front mount intercooler
HKS racing suction intakes
koyo rad
b&m short shifter w/momo shift ****
all new vac lines and rad hoses
aluminum ast
m2 down pipe
megan racing midpipe
racing beat single tip cat back
aem uego wideband
autometer boost gauge
center 2pod gauge holder (goes where center speaker goes)
dimpled/slotted rotors
eibach lowering springs
koni yellow struts
RE rear toe links

the car ran a 12.6 @ 117 mph
Was that your car in the vid that was posted?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Was that your car in the vid that was posted?
yup that was mine
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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117 moph is a nice trap
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117 moph is a nice trap
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