Sprockett

Read the line you quoted a little more carefully...he was being sarcastic.

CasperIV

Auto's have gears too... but I made the sentence confusing. They call them autosticks for the Magnums, but I am pretty sure at the last SEMA show I saw a 6 speed autostick on display. Maybe I'm crazy.

habu2

With the small battery and no AC my swap is not 40-50 lbs heavier. It did screw up the weight balance though, reversed it from 50f/50r to 50r/50f.....

CasperIV

Where did you weigh the car to measure your distrobution?

HadaGSL-SE

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Ah I see what your saying about the transmission. I knew that it was auto, I don't know how many gears though. Could very well be 6. I just immediately thought manual tranny when I read that.

My7RUNS

Lets go along with your first remark, you are bashing a v8 but do you do the same to someone that does a 3 rotor conversion because if I am not mistaken that the 3rd rotor will add a lot of weight and "throw off the lengendary 50/50 balance".

Later

Eat-Pez

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Thanks for the heads up, but the Grand Prix GTP was discontinued in 2006. There is no 2007 Grand Prix GTP. The Grand Prix GXP has the 5.3l LS4. So, please get your facts straight before you erroneously correct an erroneous post. .

Check Pontiac's website if you disagree.

XxMerlinxX

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You missed his obvious sarcasm.

TpCpLaYa

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well heres my run in with a 06 GTO. I was cruisin with my buddy (he drives a BPU 99 VR-4 running about 12-14 psi). We see the GTO drive by and were both instantly interested...especially since the guy gave a look and basically begged up to play. I wasnt try to weave through traffic to catch him so i had to hang back...the VR-4 caught an opening and i could see and hear them both open up. It was probably a 2nd gear roll and they shut down sumwhere in 3rd. I later found out that the VR-4 pulled about a car before they shut down.

So i see this and since i have raced the VR-4 many of times and beat it every time I wanted a shot at the 6.0L which i think is a badass car BTW. So I catch up and get next to the GTO but dont really get a chance to do even a full pull in one gear. Surprisingly we catch a light and we get to chatting.

The guy is with his wife and its a bone stock 06. I am by myself....BUT...i am running a SMIC without a duct and for the time i have been driving i can tell theres some bad heatsoak. So as were talking i find out from his wife that she "loves my car" and "used to have a 2nd gen".............WHAT?!?...ha, kinda random but i was digging it

So Im still chatting with the wife when the light turns and he pulls off pretty decently...he was about a car...car 1/2 before i took off after him.

1st gear..........nothing, I cant pull
2nd gear..........nothing, I can't pull
3rd gear...........slightly inching and i rev 3rd out till 8 grand just to pull that last half car length before i shut down right at his door.

those cars are verrrry torquey and it was clear by how quick he got goin in the lower gears.

My mods are:
aftermarket IC (my duct is out being tweaked since it was custom from 13BNUT on the forum....which kills efficientcy)

I have manual boost controller set to 9 psi with a boost pattern of 9-7-5-7-9

Highflow cat, dp, RB duals, 9lb flywheel, streetport, hot air intake


so i would guess im in the mild/moderately modded category which like someone else mentioned is a drivers race against these 06 Goats

Great cars, guy was cool, but unfortunately I only had the chance to run him beginning in first.....I would of much rather enjoyed a 3rd gear roll....;-)

Marshall

Are you f'n kidding me?? A well sorted full exhaust, intake, PFC tuned FD is a low- mid 12 second 112-115mph car. Thats heads & cam territory on a LS2 Goat!

TpCpLaYa

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edit:
my friends VR-4 is a 97 not a 99. I dont even know if there is power difference between the two or if its just body differences

matty

agreed. noone knows what a simple bolt on fd can do with an exhaust and intake with the pfc b/c most fds around are pieces of crap. that simple.

Sprockett

I'd like to see proof that an intake/exhaust/tune only car will run a low 12 second pass. Not calling BS, I'd just be interested in seeing it. My two friends have two single turbo FDs with all the supporting mods and are in the high 11s.

An '05 GTO with DRs, mild cam, Fast90 IM, and full exhaust will run a high 11, too, btw. I searched around a bit on the forum and found that. Don't get me wrong, either - I'm not your typical domestic guy. I've owned an FD in the past, and still love them today. I've owned 11 other imports, too. This is my first domestic. You won't catch me bashing FD's on here (other than maybe the reliability issues, but that's more of a personal issue with me) or any other type of rotary vehicle. I know the potential of the car, and i respect it.

EDIT: Straight from the GTO forum

matty

90% of drag racing is the launch. your short time is everything. a good launch verse a so so launch could mean a full second up top. that is why automatic lsx's run some sick times with 1.5 short times with very little power. having said that i ran 12.7 @ 110-111mph with intake exhaust and power fc untuned almost a decade ago. that is with a 2.0 sixty foot time. throw some slicks or drag radials on there and thats easy low 12s. i have seen a few guys that had same power level as me but ran a better tire that did in fact get low 12s. thats whats so fustratingh about drag racing and why i just dont give a **** about it anymore. Not many fd owners that drag race ON OCCASSION go out and buy a set of slicks or dr. where as the domestic guys obviously dont care about anything other than straight line (i say obvious cause they bought sleds in the first place) so they run drag racing tires, even on the road, and get good ets with terible trap speeds. i love it when someone tells me they run low 11s then i smoke them on the hwy. a good et tells me one thing.....u hooked up..not that ur car is fast. My point is drag racing without proper equipemtn like tires is like playing baseball without a glove.

edit: damn i ddint even read the quote u posted from gto forum....i see it now. anyways what i posted above is exactly what the data u posted infers. those guys all got awesome short times i would be willing to bet and also probably have automatics. guess what...i would eat 90% of them in a street encounter with my 360 rwhp stock twin stock motor fd. **** now that i look again i am willing to bet i would eat all 100% of them actually. drag racing tells u who hooks better but rollon racing tells whos car is faster. and thats all i care about....whos car is faster. i couldnt give a **** about ETs. if i did i would go buy a set of tires and get mid 11s with my bolt on only car and hate to drive it on the road cause the tires are so f'ing squirrely.

Sprockett

Could not agree with you more

sk8world

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I ran 12.3 years ago on stock twins-full exhaust (no cats), intake, smic and HKS f-con (piggy back fuel computer). 60 foot was 1.85.

XxMerlinxX

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What was your boost set at?

matty

wow i expected u to come at me.
good i am happy u agree. cause its the truth.

Rxmfn7

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I have a video of me running a 13.0@112MPH in my FD, with a shitty 2.2 60', and my car billowing out clutch smoke from underneath as the clutch was slipping from 2nd gear on. This was with only an intake, 3" exhaust with cat, and a Pettit ECU (13psi). Not saying the GTO isnt a respectable car, but a simple bolt on FD is no slouch.

Sprockett

Nope, you're 100% right. I once had a 350hp turbo Integra Type-R that ran a 13.7 at 112. If you can't get off the line, you'll never turn a good time. Those first 60-100 feet are crucial in a good time.

cool_as_crap

lol oops

zinx

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Here is a good pic for this thread:

TT_Rotary

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GTO = bought horsepower.. if u buy ur horsepower ur not a good racer.. regardless, u shouldnt even be able to street race, just like trans am's.. camaro's.. all trash.. bought HP!

sk8world

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13-14psi. Car made 327rwhp with dp-mp-cat back, smic, hks ecu and boost control.

matty

what the **** are u talking about?

that sounds so silly. grow up.