FD vs Porsche Carrera 4 S
12-12-04, 11:02 AM
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That's fine keep going. I am not going to push my point any further. Yes a 26 project. Yes a 944 project. No more 20B, that car is totaled (YES, I AM HAPPY ITS DEAD.) No bs dYno, that is all n/a power. Wanna test me post that in the porscheforums. Any more? I have nothinG to prove to anyone but myself.
12-12-04, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
That's fine keep going. I am not going to push my point any further. Yes a 26 project. Yes a 944 project. No more 20B, that car is totaled (YES, I AM HAPPY ITS DEAD.) No bs dYno, that is all n/a power. Wanna test me post that in the porscheforums. Any more? I have nothinG to prove to anyone but myself.
1) No, not a 26B project. You won't be able to get a 26 or could you afford it.
2) Yes, it's a BS dyno not from YOUR car.
3) I'll go over and register and burn you again if you would like.
12-16-04, 02:58 AM
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I just finished reading this thread ...and my god what a collection of funny *** ****
They need to start a funny thread Area and archive this thing. As for the whole SC stock NA 500hp thing and wat little information Ive been giving about wat other mods would be done, I have to say extreme exagergation. Now I really dont care ethier way, and im mostly posting this outta bordem. But It would be possible to make a "NA" care have that much horsepower IF! and only IF the engine were so majorly modified that it would not be a Stock N/A motor anymore.... So by calling it a Stock NA motor we are to assume exactly that. Stock NA motor+500Hp =No way, But....... Fully built race motor+500hp =Plausible. Now in your part assuming that We would some how know that said motor would no longer be stock puts you at fault for not providing enough information/detail and some how assuming that we know wat other mods would be done. Im not here to argue about blah blah blah I just want to help clairify the situation... And I know that some how we all dont care wat each other thinks but for some reason we continue to argue. but the fact is we all do care... even if its a small degree its still caring. Also providing proof to back up wat you claim is entirly up to you. But if you come in here for some recogition about something. which is wat you were seeking (argue all you want. thats a factor in driving,owning,racing and being invovled with cars is about, not to mention Life ) If you want people to tak you serious then at least make and attempt to back up wat you claim. Feel free to queston any aspect of wat im saying at any time cause i can go in way too much detail if need be ..... so anyways i better stop cause this is way to long as it is
Peace
They need to start a funny thread Area and archive this thing. As for the whole SC stock NA 500hp thing and wat little information Ive been giving about wat other mods would be done, I have to say extreme exagergation. Now I really dont care ethier way, and im mostly posting this outta bordem. But It would be possible to make a "NA" care have that much horsepower IF! and only IF the engine were so majorly modified that it would not be a Stock N/A motor anymore.... So by calling it a Stock NA motor we are to assume exactly that. Stock NA motor+500Hp =No way, But....... Fully built race motor+500hp =Plausible. Now in your part assuming that We would some how know that said motor would no longer be stock puts you at fault for not providing enough information/detail and some how assuming that we know wat other mods would be done. Im not here to argue about blah blah blah I just want to help clairify the situation... And I know that some how we all dont care wat each other thinks but for some reason we continue to argue. but the fact is we all do care... even if its a small degree its still caring. Also providing proof to back up wat you claim is entirly up to you. But if you come in here for some recogition about something. which is wat you were seeking (argue all you want. thats a factor in driving,owning,racing and being invovled with cars is about, not to mention Life ) If you want people to tak you serious then at least make and attempt to back up wat you claim. Feel free to queston any aspect of wat im saying at any time cause i can go in way too much detail if need be ..... so anyways i better stop cause this is way to long as it is Peace
12-23-04, 02:23 AM
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heh, just raced a 4S from a 2nd gear roll.. dont remmeber how fast we started at.. but by near the top of 3rd, he just blew by me 
(i was infront for the majority.. i just let off once he just blew by )
edit; oh yeah, just running a dp & RB exhaust
(i was infront for the majority.. i just let off once he just blew by )edit; oh yeah, just running a dp & RB exhaust
12-23-04, 11:07 AM
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I just thought it was necessary to come here and say that the "gentleman" with the 944 is NOT indicative of all of us. Some of us are serious car nuts (hell I have had more than my fair share of RX7s and still have a 90 vert -FS if anyone wants one cheap) and actually know WTF we are talking about.
Mr. Pilkington is an idiot and knows as little about 944s as I do about flying a space shuttle. Trust me, we are having a good laugh at him on the Porsche sites too.
Mr. Pilkington is an idiot and knows as little about 944s as I do about flying a space shuttle. Trust me, we are having a good laugh at him on the Porsche sites too.
12-23-04, 11:25 AM
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Who makes the kit, and do they have any dyno charts?
A 951 modified and tweaked on race fuel MAY make 345 rwhp.
The dyno is WEAK. A stock turbo S will make that power.
12-23-04, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by omochi
heh, just raced a 4S from a 2nd gear roll.. dont remmeber how fast we started at.. but by near the top of 3rd, he just blew by me (i was infront for the majority.. i just let off once he just blew by )
edit; oh yeah, just running a dp & RB exhaust
(i was infront for the majority.. i just let off once he just blew by )edit; oh yeah, just running a dp & RB exhaust
Thanks for posting that info.
12-24-04, 01:33 PM
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I dont mean to rehash this discussion, because i know how much of a headache it must have caused reading Mr Pilkington's claims and remarks are. I would just like to say that i hope this guy has not left a bad impression on owners of 944's. This guy really has no clue what hes talking about, and you can see for yourself over at PorscheForums.Com . The n/a 8valve 944 is a fairly slow car, 150 horsepower about. And in no way will this car ever put out 500 horsepower without a bottomless wallet and alot of time spent. A supercharged 944 (One or two are floating around our forums at Rennlist.Com) dont make anymore than a stock 944 Turbo, or no more than 220hp. The transmission on the 944 (all series 944's really) are very fragile and would likley blow the ring and pinion trying to feather the clutch out with that type of power. A well worked 944 engine short of turbo or supercharging it will likley make no more than 190-200 horsepower. And to get those types of numbers, im talking some serious work done to it.
Like 944turbo said, the 944 Turbo can make some serious power for not too much money. 300 horsepower is fairly easy to reach, 400 being a little more of a challenge. But still very do-able with the right tuning, modifications and money.
Like 944turbo said, i just wanted to say not all of us Porsche drivers/old Porsche drivers/944 drivers are idiots making out rageous claims. The 944 is slow, we all know that. Soccer mom minivans are faster in acceleration. All us 8v 944 guys have too back us up is good handling
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And much respect for the RX-7, ive seen some pretty highly modified ones over on Deer Park Ave. on Long Island (huge street racing area) and they are pretty imrpessive (not that i condone street racing).
And on a side note, i was once mistaken for a RX-7. These two guys were looking at my car for a few minutes, likley confused at what they were looking at. "It looks like an RX-7, but why are the fenders so much bigger?". "HEY MAN NICE RX-7!".
Like 944turbo said, the 944 Turbo can make some serious power for not too much money. 300 horsepower is fairly easy to reach, 400 being a little more of a challenge. But still very do-able with the right tuning, modifications and money.
Like 944turbo said, i just wanted to say not all of us Porsche drivers/old Porsche drivers/944 drivers are idiots making out rageous claims. The 944 is slow, we all know that. Soccer mom minivans are faster in acceleration. All us 8v 944 guys have too back us up is good handling
.And much respect for the RX-7, ive seen some pretty highly modified ones over on Deer Park Ave. on Long Island (huge street racing area) and they are pretty imrpessive (not that i condone street racing).
And on a side note, i was once mistaken for a RX-7. These two guys were looking at my car for a few minutes, likley confused at what they were looking at. "It looks like an RX-7, but why are the fenders so much bigger?". "HEY MAN NICE RX-7!".
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12-24-04, 02:34 PM
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where'd mr plunkinton go? did he get embarassed enough to leave and never come back...i sure hope so. There should be a standardized test to allow people to use car forums, to keep crap like that out. Too much need for speed underground for that poor fellow.
12-24-04, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Techno Duck
I dont mean to rehash this discussion, because i know how much of a headache it must have caused reading Mr Pilkington's claims and remarks are. I would just like to say that i hope this guy has not left a bad impression on owners of 944's. This guy really has no clue what hes talking about, and you can see for yourself over at PorscheForums.Com . The n/a 8valve 944 is a fairly slow car, 150 horsepower about. And in no way will this car ever put out 500 horsepower without a bottomless wallet and alot of time spent. A supercharged 944 (One or two are floating around our forums at Rennlist.Com) dont make anymore than a stock 944 Turbo, or no more than 220hp. The transmission on the 944 (all series 944's really) are very fragile and would likley blow the ring and pinion trying to feather the clutch out with that type of power. A well worked 944 engine short of turbo or supercharging it will likley make no more than 190-200 horsepower. And to get those types of numbers, im talking some serious work done to it.
Like 944turbo said, the 944 Turbo can make some serious power for not too much money. 300 horsepower is fairly easy to reach, 400 being a little more of a challenge. But still very do-able with the right tuning, modifications and money.
Like 944turbo said, i just wanted to say not all of us Porsche drivers/old Porsche drivers/944 drivers are idiots making out rageous claims. The 944 is slow, we all know that. Soccer mom minivans are faster in acceleration. All us 8v 944 guys have too back us up is good handling.
And much respect for the RX-7, ive seen some pretty highly modified ones over on Deer Park Ave. on Long Island (huge street racing area) and they are pretty imrpessive (not that i condone street racing).
And on a side note, i was once mistaken for a RX-7. These two guys were looking at my car for a few minutes, likley confused at what they were looking at. "It looks like an RX-7, but why are the fenders so much bigger?". "HEY MAN NICE RX-7!".
Like 944turbo said, the 944 Turbo can make some serious power for not too much money. 300 horsepower is fairly easy to reach, 400 being a little more of a challenge. But still very do-able with the right tuning, modifications and money.
Like 944turbo said, i just wanted to say not all of us Porsche drivers/old Porsche drivers/944 drivers are idiots making out rageous claims. The 944 is slow, we all know that. Soccer mom minivans are faster in acceleration. All us 8v 944 guys have too back us up is good handling
.And much respect for the RX-7, ive seen some pretty highly modified ones over on Deer Park Ave. on Long Island (huge street racing area) and they are pretty imrpessive (not that i condone street racing).
And on a side note, i was once mistaken for a RX-7. These two guys were looking at my car for a few minutes, likley confused at what they were looking at. "It looks like an RX-7, but why are the fenders so much bigger?". "HEY MAN NICE RX-7!".
Its a shame when clowns post Dr. Suess stories. Its a waste of people's time & good bandwidth used by people that post REAL information. Ahh, well, it was entertaining to say the least.
See ya,
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01-01-05, 02:57 PM
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It's always easy to mock what one does not understand. As an innovator I am glad to have all of this opposition. No please, do keep this coming. I'll be sure to keep around all of my bills and receipts on this mod too.
And shame on you for not backing a fellow owner. If you were a true "serious car nut," especially on the Porsche category you would be more than ecstatic at this idea. (BTW: I took the liberty of correcting your grammar.)
Originally Posted by 944turbo
Mr. Pilkington is an idiot and knows as little about 944s as I do about flying a space shuttle. Trust me; we are having a good laugh at him on the Porsche sites too.
01-01-05, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
It's always easy to mock what one does not understand. As an innovator I am glad to have all of this opposition. No please, do keep this coming. I'll be sure to keep around all of my bills and receipts on this mod too.
And shame on you for not backing a fellow owner. If you were a true "serious car nut," especially on the Porsche category you would be more than ecstatic at this idea. (BTW: I took the liberty of correcting your grammar.)
And shame on you for not backing a fellow owner. If you were a true "serious car nut," especially on the Porsche category you would be more than ecstatic at this idea. (BTW: I took the liberty of correcting your grammar.)
You are an innovator alright, an innovator of lies and BS.
01-01-05, 11:38 PM
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That Porscheforum thread is a hoot. One thing people should note is there is no actual proof that Mr Pilkington owns a 944. I agree with the other 944 turbo owner. I own a 1989 944 Turbo S and know that 500 hp is difficult enough to do in a car designed for boost let alone one that is not like a 944 n/a. Very few 944 turbo's make that power and most that do have increased their displacement as well as done a pile of modifications to get there. I dyno'd my car at 279 rwhp/307 lb-ft of torque on a Mustang dyno with my car at 15 lbs of boost and a k27/8 turbo, chips and a 3 bar fuel pressure regulator. Everything else was stock and I was running lean at 15 lbs. I have since increased my injector sizes and bought an SMT6. It is my opinion that the dyno sheet posted by Mr. Pilkington likely came from another model of car.
Speedforce Racing, Lindsey Racing, Vitesse Racing all make quality products for the 944 but none to my knowledge make a supercharger that makes the power claimed by Mr. Pilkington.
Speedforce Racing, Lindsey Racing, Vitesse Racing all make quality products for the 944 but none to my knowledge make a supercharger that makes the power claimed by Mr. Pilkington.
01-03-05, 02:49 AM
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It is getting better and better!
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...2&page=1&pp=15
http://www.porscheforum.com/m_2816/tm.htm
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...2&page=1&pp=15
http://www.porscheforum.com/m_2816/tm.htm
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Sorry to bring up an old thread, but your buddy Mr.Pilkington has invaded our site... Click Here
Beautiful Cars guys, definately Jealous.
Beautiful Cars guys, definately Jealous.
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