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Old 10-31-04, 08:48 PM
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What's the best turbo setup for drifting?

1993 Rx-7.

Keep the twins? Make them non-seq? Small single?

If anyone has any links to help me with as much information as they can.. Would be extremely appreciated.

Used search but typing in Drifting gives me a lot of information completely off-topic.

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Old 10-31-04, 10:59 PM
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I'm not a drifter but it seems like you'd want quick spool up with a linear powerband.

I think a small/med sized single would be the best way to go.

I think non-seq would be worse than seq.
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Throttle response is very important - any kind of lag hurts because you have to anticipate for it in advance. As a car bites/slips due to minute pavement changes, fast throttle response will help you stay on top of things as they occur.
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.81 AR P trim TO4S or similar. INSTANT response, ~350rwhp Big DP/Exhaust, to aid response. Cast mani fine. Basicly, a small single, aggressive timing, in a word, a light switch
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i know a guy that changed his twin turbo to a single and now he has igntion problems
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Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford
i know a guy that changed his twin turbo to a single and now he has igntion problems
WHAT??
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Does drifting qualify as "racing"? I think of it as more of an exibition... or auto ballet.
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Originally Posted by John Magnuson
Does drifting qualify as "racing"? I think of it as more of an exibition... or auto ballet.
It is a competition, so since we do not have a drift forum, and since the gentleman has a performance question, I think this is a fine place for it. Many of the larger forums now have a specific drift forum(Supra forums for example). Anyway, fine question, so who cares if you or I think it is "racing"?
Knowledge, Tolerance, community, cooperation, sharing experiences, that is what these forums are about...
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get a small single turbo w/ small a/r.. preferably a ball bearing turbo





Originally Posted by Gylen
1993 Rx-7.

Keep the twins? Make them non-seq? Small single?

If anyone has any links to help me with as much information as they can.. Would be extremely appreciated.

Used search but typing in Drifting gives me a lot of information completely off-topic.

Thanks in advance,
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Old 11-01-04, 06:57 PM
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Well said. I think you should look more into the Apexi drift FD. Something fishy about making 493rwhp at lower boost than you would expect with little or no lag. I think you'll find your answer there. Oh and I think people who are not talented enough to beat top drifters should not comment. I went to the first D1 at Irwindale and it was amazing.
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From what I've seen, drift setups are pretty similar to autocross setups in terms of engine setup. Quick predictable response is more important than big power.

This might be a good place for a V8 swap; instant predictable torque would be great, and the added weight to the front would make the car's transitions more stable. Plus it sounds nice; I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting sick of listening to crappy-sounding drift cars. Even the ones with big turbos still sound like a small engine being revved to death.

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I agree that this question belongs in this section.

Welcome Gylen!

I have no idea about the turbos, but some guys on the RX-7 V8 forum report excellent drifting results with their cars.

edit: just saw Scotty's post - he guessed right!
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a big heavy engine isnt the best for drifting that why alot of 350z drift cars u see do a sr swap becuase the stock 350z motor is really heavy and isnt centered over the front to much so the sr sits closer to the firewall..as for 240sx its more power and just awsome.......funny thing is all the american drfiters swap the sr motor from japan (which the stock motor in japan) and all the japanese kids are putting rb motors (which is the stock american motor)
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[QUOTE=Rusty Shackleford]a big heavy engine isnt the best for drifting ...QUOTE]

Very true, like anything it's a tradeoff. Some of the chassis balance is traded for a very wide and very deep powerband, so it requires adjustment to driving technique.

I can't wait to finish mine and try it out!
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Originally Posted by scotty305
From what I've seen, drift setups are pretty similar to autocross setups in terms of engine setup. Quick predictable response is more important than big power.

This might be a good place for a V8 swap; instant predictable torque would be great, and the added weight to the front would make the car's transitions more stable. Plus it sounds nice; I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting sick of listening to crappy-sounding drift cars. Even the ones with big turbos still sound like a small engine being revved to death.

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An LS1 w/T56 trans adds about 60lbs to the front of a FD, we weighed one with the conversion done. If you strip the 13B-REW of emissions, twins (replace w/single), AC, lightweight flywheel, etc that might go up to 80-100lbs added to the front over the lightened stock motor.

The powerband is extremely predictable with the V8.
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Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford
.......funny thing is all the american drfiters swap the sr motor from japan (which the stock motor in japan) and all the japanese kids are putting rb motors (which is the stock american motor)
??WTF?? yes. sr motors came stock in the (R)PS13 - S15 in japan...but RB motors are the stock american motor?! nah, what they're doin is putting the RB motors (stock Skyline motors non-GTR model RWD) in there and cutting into the firewall to fit. only seen them in as early as the kouki s14 models and s15 models. some have even pushed the RB motor so far back that they sit behind the front wheels, in effect being a midship. more power added, more adjustment to suspension and driving technique.
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this is a Nissan Skyline RB25DET inside a S14 240SX.. a-spectuning can install them without cutting the firewall.. the car flys!!!!!!!!!!!



go here for more info www.a-spectuning.com
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No, we're not completely off topic here....
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I'm not trying to flame or say "V8s are bad", but let's be accurate. Comparison of apples to apples a LS1 engine itself weights 497.2lbs while a 13B-REW ~356lbs. http://www.geocities.com/jeffguilfoi...neweights.html I don't know the difference of the T56 vs. Type R trannys but I doubt the T56 has a weight advantage.
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I would say a small, fast spooling turbo. The reason I say this is that you want to be able to control the trottle for minute changes while hanging the ***-end out around a corner (aka "drifting"). If you have a turbo with a pronounced boost lag, you will have the rear end slipping out while under boost, then if you let off and get back on again, you will hit a lull in the boost and then hit again when it finishes respooling. This=spinning out/hitting wall/hitting other cars (I think, I still don't understand how or why drifting works...)
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