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Old 11-10-05, 12:45 AM
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Exclamation Wanted: Your SCCA/NASA Race Car

Since this is racing specific, I thought it would be ok to post here:

Looking for an RX7 prepared for SCCA or NASA racing. I'm not overly concerned about the body cosmetics, as long the car is well set up, mechanically sound and the price is right. I prefer a higher horsepower Gen 2. Please email pics and info to atlantica_inc-racing at yahoo dot com.

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Originally Posted by darrinv
Since this is racing specific, I thought it would be ok to post here:

Looking for an RX7 prepared for SCCA or NASA racing. I'm not overly concerned about the body cosmetics, as long the car is well set up, mechanically sound and the price is right. I prefer a higher horsepower Gen 2. Please email pics and info to atlantica_inc-racing at yahoo dot com.

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hey whts up man.....if your looking to run in the IT class the motor should be close to stock..with the exception of the header and exhaust......but if your looking for a high horsepower car then you would be running in like EP(Eproduction).......and you can find a car race ready from $7000-$15000....it all depends on how it was built if it has spare parts stuff like tht......and there is a website you can check out its call speedsourceinc.
they usualy have cars for sale...
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Thanks for the heads-up. I've been going over the SCCA class specs and wondering where an RX7 would run. I've seen a couple of IT and EP cars so far, so that makes sense now.

Anyone out there have experience in either of the two classes, and be willing to share their advice on running an RX7.

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Old 11-10-05, 10:42 AM
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ITA is tons cheaper and easier to setup and maintain. Can always upgrade an ITA car to EP too.
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A second gen would not run in ITA, but rather ITS. It would run in EP along with the first gen (12A or 13B powered). Don't know how easy they are to maintain, but there are tons of them so they can't be too difficult. I know the first gens are easy as pie.

If you'd like to come check out some Spec7's (which happen to be the cheapest form of road racing there is) I've got a bunch and I'm not far from the airport.
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IT7 is great! Highly reccomend it. Very competitive racing.
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Old 11-10-05, 04:14 PM
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i was reading about ITS prepped FC vs. ITS prepped BMW e30s over on improvedtouring.com. the FC seems to do reasonably well on an overall basis. someone please correct me if I'm wrong...

I might also be in the market for something soon. I want to get licensed next year.
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Your better off with a Spec Miata.
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The website still says it's for sale.
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Thanks for the email so far. I'm still putting together a list of possible cars.

I was looking over the SCCA southwest region race results. Seems like the fields are pretty good in ITx. Not so many cars running EP it seems. And what's with GT3? I could see running a nice twin turbo there, but hardly anyone races that class.
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Originally Posted by camocarl
Your better off with a Spec Miata.
Carl that is just evil. THis is an RX-7 site. Once you race SM you should be banned from this site.
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I only speak the truth!!! Ive been racing our Spec Miata this season, what a blast!
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spec miata are fun an all but nothing sounds like a rotary...i personally like the ITS class just cuz the amount of competiton for cheap....when you get in to the faster classes like EP or GT3 its more money and less competiton= less fun.....just my 2cents.........well here check this out......i was at daytona back in june for the race on saturday in the ITS race group there was 105 cars in that one run group alone....anything from BMW to FC to 240sx alot of different cars was an interesting race to watch....so my opinion would be to go with an FC and run ITS class
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Agreed. ITS seems like the best group to start in. If I suddenly want to turn some portion of my bank account into race car parts, I can always move up to EP.
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I'm still torn between ITS with an FC, Spec Miata and to a lesser extent IT7. IT7 is cheap, but the cars seem to have some quirky handling and the rules seem to be a bit off in regards to tire sizing. Sounds like it might be annoying to drive/race.
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Try looking in the for sale section of
http://www.improvedtouring.com/chat2/
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Originally Posted by alberto_mg
I'm still torn between ITS with an FC, Spec Miata and to a lesser extent IT7. IT7 is cheap, but the cars seem to have some quirky handling and the rules seem to be a bit off in regards to tire sizing. Sounds like it might be annoying to drive/race.

From what I've heard and seen, right now ITS/IT7 would better. Spec Miata is still pretty new to the SCCA and not regulated as much as it should be. I hear the current drivers complain constantly about the blatant cheating going on. While it's cheap, from what I hear right now it's pretty frustrating at the moment.
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I'm still torn between ITS with an FC, Spec Miata and to a lesser extent IT7. IT7 is cheap, but the cars seem to have some quirky handling and the rules seem to be a bit off in regards to tire sizing. Sounds like it might be annoying to drive/race
ITS is MUCH faster than spec miata and much more expensive. IT7 is about a 1/3 of the price that a competitive ITS car would cost and with regards to the tire size, IT7 now runs a spec tire.
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Originally Posted by 90WhiteVrt
ITS is MUCH faster than spec miata and much more expensive. IT7 is about a 1/3 of the price that a competitive ITS car would cost and with regards to the tire size, IT7 now runs a spec tire.

please explain how ITS is more expensive to run??cuz ITS runs a 15x7 wheel.
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Originally Posted by ITS_Rx-7
please explain how ITS is more expensive to run??cuz ITS runs a 15x7 wheel.

More expensive than SM? Easy, if you just look at the suspension. The package in SM is a low buck spec pack. In IT you can spend over a grand per corner on shocks alone. Take a trip to the ARRC this weekend and look at what's under some of the top flight BMW and RX-7 rigs. You'll see Advance Design this and Moton that. Other things like the custom 5.12 rear gear that's pretty much mandatory for an ITS RX-7, the high dollar Motec systems that are becoming all the rage. SM is a cheaters paradise and there are guys dumping a lot of money on cheater engines and shocks. But built to letter of the rules an IT car will be vastly more expensive to build and maintain.
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Originally Posted by ITS_Rx-7
please explain how ITS is more expensive to run??cuz ITS runs a 15x7 wheel.

I think he might be referring to purchase price nor cost to run (as in race).
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Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
More expensive than SM? Easy, if you just look at the suspension. The package in SM is a low buck spec pack. In IT you can spend over a grand per corner on shocks alone. Take a trip to the ARRC this weekend and look at what's under some of the top flight BMW and RX-7 rigs. You'll see Advance Design this and Moton that. Other things like the custom 5.12 rear gear that's pretty much mandatory for an ITS RX-7, the high dollar Motec systems that are becoming all the rage.
That is exactly my concern with IT prep. Unless I get a car with those goodies, there is no way I'd want to drop that much $$ to keep up.

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SM is a cheaters paradise and there are guys dumping a lot of money on cheater engines and shocks. But built to letter of the rules an IT car will be vastly more expensive to build and maintain.
That my concern with SM rules and SM builds.

It seems *easier* to build an IT car b/c you are allowed to do certain things. While in SM, you have to try and hide what you did to eek out those extra tenths from spec parts. Overall it still seems (my perception here) like the general operating budget of a typical SM driver is lower than those of drivers running IT.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong or your informed opinion/experience differs.

mahjik - thanks for the insight.
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