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Old 11-18-03, 12:44 PM
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Rallying setup

I'm setting up a 86 GXL for performance rallying in Western Canada. I would like to know if anyone else here rallies a 2nd gen.

Specifically, I'm looking for help in suspension settings. What spring rates do you run, what suspension components, shocks, etc.?

Any and all help appreciated.
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Old 11-18-03, 01:32 PM
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I don't rally one but I have seen a second gen in the SCCA rally series. Not sure what class it was. I've always wanted to do Pike's Peak with the FD!! I would think that the set-up would vary greatly depending on terrain, bumps, mud, hardpac, etc... What are the conditions like there? I used to live in northern Michigan,lots of woods and snomobile type trails. Good fun for rally!!
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Old 11-18-03, 01:58 PM
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Yes, I've seen several 2nd gens run in both the SCCA and the Canadian Rally series. I was hoping some of those guys hung out here.

Conditions are pretty good here. Our events are not overly rough like they are down east. They're fairly smooth, comparitively speaking.......
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Re: Rallying setup

Im currently running an 86 GXL in SCCA/NASA Club Rally.

Suspension is DMS 50mm Super Struts on the Front and I was running the DMS shocks on the rear but I broke them. I am replacing them with Bilstein's. The DMS are kinda expensive but they really improve the handling. The springs are progressive 275/300 Frnt - 180/220 rear (I think).

You can see the car/team info at http://www.4Seventeen.com
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275 or 300 lbs/in in the front? Doesn't that seem pretty high?

What are the stock spring rates?
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Originally posted by DAharon
275 or 300 lbs/in in the front? Doesn't that seem pretty high?

What are the stock spring rates?
I think stock rates are like 120f - 110r. I checkled this morning and the DMS fronts are 240/350. The rears are being built so I cant check them right now.
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Old 11-21-03, 10:52 AM
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Hey, nice looking car, the graphics look sharp. I like the cage too. Finally something with an X going to the top of the strut. Did you seam weld the chassis?... assuming that's legal in the class you're running.
I don't think that would be too bad. you don't want the car to bottom out after landing. I'm probably going to run around 400lbs/in spring in the front of my autocross car.
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AutoX is run on a way different surface than Pro-Rally or RallyX.
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You think?
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Originally posted by Travis R
Hey, nice looking car, the graphics look sharp. I like the cage too. Finally something with an X going to the top of the strut. Did you seam weld the chassis?...
Thanks, Yes it is mostly seam welded. Still a couple of places to do yet.
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does seam welding really make that much of a differece?
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in rally seam welding add's life to the shell, in road racing it's all about stiffness. The less compliance the better.

If you're looking for another 10th then you might get it with seam welding.
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