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Old 12-04-09, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Pele
I had the sonofabitch welded to the back of the tow vehicle.

Eyes are out in NoVA Fritz.
Any special thingies on it that you would have put there and nobody else would? (Electrical hookups, etc.)
Got a Manufacturer and serial number or was that a custom one off?
Any interesting features or distinguishing characteristics?
THANKS!

VIN is: 4YZCH182931007035

There's a NASA bumper sticker on it but I'm sure that's been removed lol.
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
THANKS!

VIN is: 4YZCH182931007035

There's a NASA bumper sticker on it but I'm sure that's been removed lol.
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so sad to hear. Our trailer is on our home property.

Do you have any pics, as it could be here in Florida! Make and model ?

I always thought about removing at least one tire and/or putting on a wheel boot!

:-) neil
Old 12-04-09, 09:11 AM
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so sad to hear. Our trailer is on our home property.

Do you have any pics, as it could be here in Florida! Make and model ?

I always thought about removing at least one tire and/or putting on a wheel boot!

:-) neil
Brent posted up a pic on the 1st page.

I had a lock on mine and they cut it off in a jiffy w/ a torch. Removing a wheel could work but honestly if someone has scoped out your trailer and decide they want it they'll get a wheel for it and who wants to remove the wheel after each use.

Easy Ride is the make I think.
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Originally Posted by memphisraines82
Speaking of which. What all do you guys do to your trailers for security? I'm always interested in improving mine. I know ultimately, if a thief wants something, he will get it... but I like to at least be a hard target.

Here's what I do:

I have a lock on the tongue lock(thing you pull back to seat the ball on the tongue... does that sound sexual? haha).

I also have a lock on the tongue when it's not hooked to the truck.

I also have some chains that I put around wheels AND the axle's if I am really concerned.

My trailer hitch also has a lock on it incase someone wants to steal it while I'm hooked up.

When I'm at home, I always put a vehicle in front of the trailer. I think that's a big deterant since someone can't just pull up, hook up, and leave.
I don't use a bumper mount trailer for starters , when someone can wrap a chain around the tongue and somewhat safely tow it away... that is a LARGE security risk in my mind .

The bumper mount utility trailer I have gets a tongue lock that is fairly thick, would take a little effort to cut it off. It also has a lock that keeps the release closed so they would have to cut that off as well and the only thin piece of this lock is covered by the release itself. If someone is going to go to the trouble to get past those things they can have the damn trailer because they are driving away with it one way or another and I'd rather they didn't mess up my property any more than they have to .

My car hauler on the other hand is a 5th wheel, which I feel is a damn good security measure right off the bat. It's not something joe blow with a truck can just pull up to, lash a chain around, and drive off with. It requires a heavier duty truck with a special hitch which weeds out a large population of people who could potentially lift it from my possession. On top of that I have a lock that goes on the mount that is 3/4" thick with a very heavy duty locking mechanism. It would take someone quite awhile to cut through it and they would likely end up damaging the mount itself in the process, making it pretty dangerous to tow afterward. I've been meaning to get a locking wheel chock that goes between the two axles but the trailer spends most of it's time out of sight, or attached to my truck , so I'm not overly worried about it right now.

On top of being less likely to get stolen it also tows A LOT nicer than any bumper mount I've used in the past, even with all the fancy gadgets they make for them . My 25' tandem axle car hauler tows nicer than my 8x12' utility trailer, half the time I forget that it's even there . So while you're at it I would upgrade to a 5th wheel trailer . If you're truck can't handle it, you should upgrade that as well .


Sorry to hear about the trailer Fritz. Not that it is likely to make it over this way, but I'll keep an eye out for it regardless, I watch the car/trailer sales pretty closely in this area already anyway.
Old 12-14-09, 08:53 AM
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Good information. Yeah, a 5th wheel would be nice, but I don't want to go through the hassle of selling my current one(which I got a killer deal on) and getting a fifth wheel. I'm content with my current set up and it pulls great. When you say bumper hitch, I'm assuming you mean standard hitch?
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Originally Posted by JHew84
I don't use a bumper mount trailer for starters , when someone can wrap a chain around the tongue and somewhat safely tow it away... that is a LARGE security risk in my mind .

The bumper mount utility trailer I have gets a tongue lock that is fairly thick, would take a little effort to cut it off. It also has a lock that keeps the release closed so they would have to cut that off as well and the only thin piece of this lock is covered by the release itself. If someone is going to go to the trouble to get past those things they can have the damn trailer because they are driving away with it one way or another and I'd rather they didn't mess up my property any more than they have to .

My car hauler on the other hand is a 5th wheel, which I feel is a damn good security measure right off the bat. It's not something joe blow with a truck can just pull up to, lash a chain around, and drive off with. It requires a heavier duty truck with a special hitch which weeds out a large population of people who could potentially lift it from my possession. On top of that I have a lock that goes on the mount that is 3/4" thick with a very heavy duty locking mechanism. It would take someone quite awhile to cut through it and they would likely end up damaging the mount itself in the process, making it pretty dangerous to tow afterward. I've been meaning to get a locking wheel chock that goes between the two axles but the trailer spends most of it's time out of sight, or attached to my truck , so I'm not overly worried about it right now.

On top of being less likely to get stolen it also tows A LOT nicer than any bumper mount I've used in the past, even with all the fancy gadgets they make for them . My 25' tandem axle car hauler tows nicer than my 8x12' utility trailer, half the time I forget that it's even there . So while you're at it I would upgrade to a 5th wheel trailer . If you're truck can't handle it, you should upgrade that as well .


Sorry to hear about the trailer Fritz. Not that it is likely to make it over this way, but I'll keep an eye out for it regardless, I watch the car/trailer sales pretty closely in this area already anyway.
I think my truck could tow a goose neck (f350 but not a dually) however like most things it's all about money, time, convenience, use, etc...etc...

My trailer had the massive hitch lock and they cut it off like butter w/ a torch. As previously mentioned someone had scoped out the trailer and knew exactly what they were doing. If someone wants a 5th wheel/gooseneck that's what they'll steal just as easily as they stole mine BUT most folks w/ a 5th wheel setup probably don't steal (please don't make me explain that prejudicial statement) so w/ that being said if I have a 5th wheel it's less likely to be stolen NO DOUBT.

Anyway I've seen lots of decent trailers on craig's list I just have to figure out what I want and what I want to spend.
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Not a bad deal but you can buy that trialer new for 4k and any enclosed 20 plus foot trailer selling for that is probably not going to pull too well.

Decent names are Haulmark, carmate, legend, pace, us cargo, ATC, featherlite etc....

I'm hoping to find a decent 24 footer that's finished completely w/ nice cobinets etc.... for under 7k. So far I've seen several but they are all 2 plus hours away.
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
Not a bad deal but you can buy that trialer new for 4k and any enclosed 20 plus foot trailer selling for that is probably not going to pull too well.

Decent names are Haulmark, carmate, legend, pace, us cargo, ATC, featherlite etc....

I'm hoping to find a decent 24 footer that's finished completely w/ nice cobinets etc.... for under 7k. So far I've seen several but they are all 2 plus hours away.
Damn man... Almost Racing must of picked up some new sponsorship Good call on buying a finished one. I'm going to be refinishing the floor in mine and installing some new cabinets and tire racks in mine. After I tore it apart this summer to make everything more sturdy, I never did put it all back in as I didn't like the old configuration. We'll see how it goes...

Speaking of which, I'm guessing there isn't a snowballs chance in hell that you will be at VIR in Feb for the NASA event? If you get one with an AC/Heater in it... you can stay warm
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Originally Posted by memphisraines82
Damn man... Almost Racing must of picked up some new sponsorship Good call on buying a finished one. I'm going to be refinishing the floor in mine and installing some new cabinets and tire racks in mine. After I tore it apart this summer to make everything more sturdy, I never did put it all back in as I didn't like the old configuration. We'll see how it goes...

Speaking of which, I'm guessing there isn't a snowballs chance in hell that you will be at VIR in Feb for the NASA event? If you get one with an AC/Heater in it... you can stay warm
I've only been to like 12 events the last two years so the racing wallet is FAT hehe

My baby is currently getting some seriously love and hopefully I'll be ready to roll in February.

Compression was just checked and she's a little tired, well more like taking a knee (approx 80 to 85 psi on all 6) but hey I figure w/ low compression rotors she can safely handle some more boost
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Originally Posted by memphisraines82
Good information. Yeah, a 5th wheel would be nice, but I don't want to go through the hassle of selling my current one(which I got a killer deal on) and getting a fifth wheel. I'm content with my current set up and it pulls great. When you say bumper hitch, I'm assuming you mean standard hitch?
Yeah it might not be worth getting rid of everything you've already got, but definitely something to look into in the future if you ever upgrade. And yeah I mean standard hitch, I just lump bumper mounted hitches and standard hitches together .



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I think my truck could tow a goose neck (f350 but not a dually) however like most things it's all about money, time, convenience, use, etc...etc...

My trailer had the massive hitch lock and they cut it off like butter w/ a torch. As previously mentioned someone had scoped out the trailer and knew exactly what they were doing. If someone wants a 5th wheel/gooseneck that's what they'll steal just as easily as they stole mine BUT most folks w/ a 5th wheel setup probably don't steal (please don't make me explain that prejudicial statement) so w/ that being said if I have a 5th wheel it's less likely to be stolen NO DOUBT.

Anyway I've seen lots of decent trailers on craig's list I just have to figure out what I want and what I want to spend.
An F350 would be more than capable, you could load that sucker up with a 3 car enclosed 5th wheel if you wanted . And I agree, there's many reasons 5th wheels would be less likely to be stolen than others. And since you mentioned it, I wouldn't bother with a gooseneck, they don't tow much if any better than a standard hitch in my experiences.

You might be surprised just how cheap 5th wheels can get, I found a couple single car enclosed trailers for *<$7K. My 25' flat bed car hauler (which is actually an equipment trailer, IIRC it has 15Klb tandem axles) with 4 brand new electric trailer brakes, loft storage area with railing, heavy duty ramps, 40K reese hitch, and a heavy duty semi storage bin, ran me $2500. I found quite a few similar set ups in that price range, almost all were *<$5K, but this was a pretty exceptional deal for everything this trailer is capable of hauling. I even find it easier to hook on and unload this 5th wheel than other trailers I've hauled, the hitch is right in the bed so lining it up is effortless. Just some food for thought while you're in the market for a new trailer, personally I'll never go back after owning this car hauler .
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
I think my truck could tow a goose neck (f350 but not a dually) however like most things it's all about money, time, convenience, use, etc...etc...
F350 SRWs can tow a 13k-15k gooseneck depending on the year and trim. I've never heard anyone with a gooseneck claim it's inconvenient.

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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
I've only been to like 12 events the last two years so the racing wallet is FAT hehe

My baby is currently getting some seriously love and hopefully I'll be ready to roll in February.

Compression was just checked and she's a little tired, well more like taking a knee (approx 80 to 85 psi on all 6) but hey I figure w/ low compression rotors she can safely handle some more boost
That's what I'm talking about! Turn up that boost!! I'll be there trying to keep up in TTS I guess... like you said, have to chase the leader to get faster . It'll be a 3 day event for me due to what I was asking about a few weeks ago Bringing the girls down?

Pete, Pat... you guys going to make it?

Originally Posted by JHew84
Yeah it might not be worth getting rid of everything you've already got, but definitely something to look into in the future if you ever upgrade. And yeah I mean standard hitch, I just lump bumper mounted hitches and standard hitches together .
Don't forget though that standard hitches mount to the frame though. I've pulled stuff with a 5th wheel before and it is better, but I've never had an issue with my standard hitch stuff either. It would be nice to have if they were the same price. I pull my flat front enclosed trailer without a problem though(05 2500 Cummins). I put around 15,000 towed miles on it this summer/fall


Originally Posted by JHew84
You might be surprised just how cheap 5th wheels can get, I found a couple single car enclosed trailers for *<$7K. My 25' flat bed car hauler (which is actually an equipment trailer, IIRC it has 15Klb tandem axles) with 4 brand new electric trailer brakes, loft storage area with railing, heavy duty ramps, 40K reese hitch, and a heavy duty semi storage bin, ran me $2500. I found quite a few similar set ups in that price range, almost all were *<$5K, but this was a pretty exceptional deal for everything this trailer is capable of hauling. I even find it easier to hook on and unload this 5th wheel than other trailers I've hauled, the hitch is right in the bed so lining it up is effortless. Just some food for thought while you're in the market for a new trailer, personally I'll never go back after owning this car hauler .
I'd never go back to an open trailer after owning my enclosed trailer It makes things so much more convenient at the track(seems like you have alot of storage as well though). Gas mileage isn't as good as it is with an open trailer, but I still get close to 20mpg when I slow it down a bit. BTW, I picked up my 2004 Haulmark 8x24 enclosed trailer for $2500 as well Since you have the truck and trailer, you should try to make it to VIR. It's a 10 hour drive for me. I also hit Putnam Park as well which I don't think it too far from you.
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Yeah I don't think there's anything prone to problems about a standard mount trailer, They just don't tow as nicely. It turns the rear axle into a fulcrum point which is going to make the ride a little worse. Where a 5th wheel doesn't have that issue, it's no different than having a loaded bed. My dodge has such a stiff suspension that it actually rides better at times with the trailer on it .

My budget was ~$2500 when I got my trailer, otherwise I would have gone with an enclosed, they are MUCH nicer. Although it is very nice having a flat bed at times.

This past year was really all about working out any kinks with the car and seeing exactly what I needed/wanted to upgrade. So next year I'll be more interested in traveling around to do some different events, so VIR is a definite possibility! At the moment I am planning on hitting up one or two of the PA hill climb events .
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Originally Posted by JHew84
Yeah I don't think there's anything prone to problems about a standard mount trailer, They just don't tow as nicely. It turns the rear axle into a fulcrum point which is going to make the ride a little worse.
Did you ever try a load leveling hitch? I'm actually interested in other people's experiences - I don't have one currently on my Explorer/open trailer and was thinking of looking into it.

My budget was ~$2500 when I got my trailer, otherwise I would have gone with an enclosed, they are MUCH nicer. Although it is very nice having a flat bed at times.
With sides on it mine can serve double-duty hauling mulch. A definite +1 in the Spousal Acceptance Factor. ;-)

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For towing anything over 5000lb on a vehicle lighter than a 3/4 ton pickup, I'd go with the load-leveling hitch. It physically cranks out the "fulcrum" factor of a normal bumper pull.

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Originally Posted by wrankin
Did you ever try a load leveling hitch? I'm actually interested in other people's experiences - I don't have one currently on my Explorer/open trailer and was thinking of looking into it.



With sides on it mine can serve double-duty hauling mulch. A definite +1 in the Spousal Acceptance Factor. ;-)

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I have towed with a load leveling hitch before and they do make the ride quality a lot better, but it's still not a comparison to a 5th wheel IMHO. But if I were towing a standard hitch it's something I would definitely use on a car hauler. Like I mentioned I have literally forgotten I was towing the FD before , nothing like looking in the rear view and freaking out because there's a car RIGHT there .
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
For towing anything over 5000lb on a vehicle lighter than a 3/4 ton pickup, I'd go with the load-leveling hitch. It physically cranks out the "fulcrum" factor of a normal bumper pull.

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Absolutely. A load leveling hitch with sway control and a brake controller go a long way.

Also look into "Timbrens", one of the best investments if you do a lot of towing.

http://www.truckspring.com/timbren_285.html?affid=5

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Damn Fritz, sorry to hear this! Where was it stolen from? No leads yet i guess?
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