My AutoX setup isn't working - what do I change?
#51
Originally Posted by GoRacer
I spent X amount of money. it doesnt matter if it was a penny. Two other people spent the same. One of them is a track car one is a street car. Both of their cars are complete. mine is not. I now have 6.7:1 compression on another brand new rebuild from Mazdatrix. Oil pan is leaking like crazy, etc. Now anyone get it? ovcorse not, so nevermind.
I don't know what the deal is. You guys are taking me completely wrong and judging me as a stuck up *** that thinks he can buy his way to the finish line or something. wtf is up with that?[B] I was not bragging about money, i'm ******* PISSED! that's my point
I have only done two sessions:One race day and one track day.
I have not raced cars legally before. I have only had one race. I have canyon raced my MR2 and CRX as well as drag raced my RX7. None of those have been legal sanctioned racing. I also raced motorcycles street GSXR750 and dirt 125 and have steel holding my spine together, road rash on my arm and a cut on my face.
I don't know what the deal is. You guys are taking me completely wrong and judging me as a stuck up *** that thinks he can buy his way to the finish line or something. wtf is up with that?[B] I was not bragging about money, i'm ******* PISSED! that's my point
I have only done two sessions:One race day and one track day.
I have not raced cars legally before. I have only had one race. I have canyon raced my MR2 and CRX as well as drag raced my RX7. None of those have been legal sanctioned racing. I also raced motorcycles street GSXR750 and dirt 125 and have steel holding my spine together, road rash on my arm and a cut on my face.
2- They guys at Mazdatrix do a good job, If you have popped multiple engines, maybe it has to do with your fuel management or other problem beyond their control.
3- I understand you are upset. Racing costs money. Sometimes you get to respend your money. It's not fair, it is very frusturating. Unfortunately that is the way it is.
4- If you only have 2 auto-x days under your belt, you shouldn't worry about lap times. You need to work on yourself.
5- I agree with the fact illegal street racing does nothing to improve your driving skills
6- I stand behind my statement that you need to start reading chassis and suspension books before making anymore changes. Before making changes, you need to understand why your are making the change, and what you are sacrificing by making it.
#52
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Originally Posted by SPICcnmGT
It's hard to get in much higher stock, street prepared, or street mod class than the FD since they don't go any higher.
As someone who has ran his FD in SS for years in events with very healthy SS car counts I can tell you that in 7 years I have not EVER run against another FD in any Divisional or National event. They're all gone. Why? Because there's no doubt that an Elise, C5 Z06, C6 Z06 or GT3 are faster than the FD on most nearly any imaginable course.
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
That's an old car, no one races those anymore."
#53
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single turbo + autocross = ALOT more work compared to sequential twins.
The most important aspects in autocrossing:
Good Driver (Practice... take EVERY fun run you can)
smooth powerband (or driver compensated)
Tires (Can make a 5-10 second difference in your time from cruddy street tires)
Good Driver (Practice. Walk the course, visualize the transitions)
Suspension needs to be set up for quick transitions
Good Driver (Practice. Every second in the seat is gold, but every second in the passenger seat is silver. Ride-alongs can help you find the right lines.)
The most important aspects in autocrossing:
Good Driver (Practice... take EVERY fun run you can)
smooth powerband (or driver compensated)
Tires (Can make a 5-10 second difference in your time from cruddy street tires)
Good Driver (Practice. Walk the course, visualize the transitions)
Suspension needs to be set up for quick transitions
Good Driver (Practice. Every second in the seat is gold, but every second in the passenger seat is silver. Ride-alongs can help you find the right lines.)
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And honestly, these are the reasons why our club has a novice class. You race there for your first 10-12 events. THEN you move into a class. You should not be worried about winning in 2 events. not even coming close. go to every even for a year, and dont even look at your times or anyone elses. just practice being smooth and being one with the car. You are overdriving the car and your abilities at the moment. just because the car is fast, does not mean the driver is.
Plus, single turbo = a completely different animal.
Plus, single turbo = a completely different animal.
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Originally Posted by rynberg
1. You are running shitty tires.
2. You are running equal spring rates. A few of us in the suspension forum have been preaching against this for YEARS. It balances the car too far towards oversteer.
3. You are running a larger slightly laggy single turbo.
Even if you were a really good driver, I doubt you would be anywhere near competitive, just given those three factors. But as with the others, you just need more seat time with your car.
2. You are running equal spring rates. A few of us in the suspension forum have been preaching against this for YEARS. It balances the car too far towards oversteer.
3. You are running a larger slightly laggy single turbo.
Even if you were a really good driver, I doubt you would be anywhere near competitive, just given those three factors. But as with the others, you just need more seat time with your car.
Thanks guys, everyone on this last page gave really good reply's to ...except for the part about me comparing with 60sec times. I allready explained the Ferrari and Z06 weren't in my class. I just used that as a goal and an example because of how impressed I was with them. The RX8 guy was 15sec faster in my car because I couldn't stay on course and was doing 360's. Now on my second attempt if you compare class times with Hikaru being best at 70sec and me being last at 78, I don't think that's to bad since I stayed on course and went down 20sec on my second event.
Car has been retuned.
Battery will be changed to Odyssey in order to use NHRA approved box.
Springs will be changed at a later time (not priority but on list now).
Rear tires will be changed at a later time (not priority but on list now).
Enrolled in NASA. Can't do driving school untill I do medical though.
Have helmet and book on order.
Have gauges on order (need tri-pod).
Need to get oil pan fixed.
Thanks again for those that gave positive and helpfull replies and web links instead of just critizing and judging negatively. Changing my driving is also part of changing my setup. Bashing me helps no one, not me and certainly not those that do a search later.
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Originally Posted by GoRacer [B
Now on my second attempt if you compare class times with Hikaru being best at 70sec and me being last at 78, I don't think that's to bad since I stayed on course and went down 20sec on my second event.[/B]
8 seconds is an absolutely enormous amount of time for any class on any length of course. You'd be hard pressed to find an 8 second gap between AM and HS at most competitive events.
Originally Posted by GoRacer
Thanks again for those that gave positive and helpfull replies and web links instead of just critizing and judging negatively. Changing my driving is also part of changing my setup. Bashing me helps no one, not me and certainly not those that do a search later
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Originally Posted by DamonB
The car being in a higher class and the car being competitive in that class is two different things.
Originally Posted by DamonB
He's right. The only ones being run competitively are in highly modified classes.
#58
Originally Posted by GoRacer
Enrolled in NASA. Can't do driving school untill I do medical though.
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From the GCR
3.5 Eligibility Requirements – Step Two
Any person wishing to enter a NASA sanctioned HPDE must meet the following
requirements:
• Be at least 18 years old (16 or over with parental consent**).
• Hold a current valid state driver’s license.**
• Have use of an automobile that meets NASA’s technical requirements.
• Hold a NASA, or a NASA sanctioned car club, current membership.
• Have proper safety equipment, as per the CCR.
• Fully pay all applicable fees.
• Have no outstanding debts with NASA or NASA’s affiliates.
• Have knowledge of all of rules found in the Club Codes and Regulations, and fully
agree to abide by them.
• All drivers must be deemed physically fit by their physician to participate in a high
stress and physically demanding sport such as auto racing.
• Sign all required waivers, and in particular the “gate waiver” before entering the
facility.
• Entrant must get their car teched before going to registration.
Here is the Comp requirements
13.1.1 NASA licensing program:
1. Four days on track with an Instructor; the last two (2) days in a race car.
2. Pass a written test and a technical compliance demonstration.
3. Approval of the Licensing Instructor and the Event Chairman.
4. A NASA Inspector must certify the race car.
5. Driver’s Attire must meet the NASA minimum standards for racing [Ref15.17)]
6. Submit a copy of their driver’s license.
7. Submit a copy of their Physical Examination form.
8. Submit the appropriate fee.
Note: The first weekend of licensing school may be waived with the approval of the
Event Chairman for drivers with prior track experience.
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#59
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I always tell people that by far the best "mod" you can make is to become a better driver. And the best thing about it is that it's free!
Buy a book such as "Going Faster" by the Skip Barber Racing School. It will probably be the cheapest "mod" you ever make and will give you the highest performance gain
Buy a book such as "Going Faster" by the Skip Barber Racing School. It will probably be the cheapest "mod" you ever make and will give you the highest performance gain
#60
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At my first event ever I was almost ten seconds behind the leader in my class of ASP. Granted I was on all weather tires. I think it's bad tires and lack of seat time.
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Originally Posted by GoRacer
Went to practice today. The rear end was loose, all over the place even did 360's. I changed the coilover settings to +15/F & +0/R which stop the 360's but she still is too loose over 6krpms'. I'm having a hard time how to figure out how to drive on this kind of course with my single. In my CRX I wouldn't ever use the brakes and keep it close to redline. With my 500R once rpm's drop below 3k, then there is no power to recover. My spool delay kicks in when it's time to brake. I tried riding the clutch and no brake keeping rpm's around 5k but my tires just won't hold. I know my rear Pirelli P6000 suck but i'm buying time untill I can get track wheels instead of using one set for both. The go kart looked so much more fun!
Anyhow, the top two cars were
1. (Silver) Ferrari Modena 60.1
2. (grey) Corvette Z06 60.2
(approximate, rounded off)
& I ran mostly a 78.3 D'oh!
Anyhow, the top two cars were
1. (Silver) Ferrari Modena 60.1
2. (grey) Corvette Z06 60.2
(approximate, rounded off)
& I ran mostly a 78.3 D'oh!
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Well thanks for all the replies. I have two books on order, helmet,etc. Received gauges today but pods are backordered. I have an oil leak that I can't find and can't get anyone to fix. My compression is 6.7 on a newly rebuilt motor with 5k miles on it. My last motor lasted 1k miles and the one before that 25k miles. I've had the car for 7 years now and have probably driven it for 7 months total.
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