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Old 03-22-06, 03:09 AM
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Drifting... (serious)

There is a real drift event going on up in souix falls (may 13th) and i wanted to know if anyone has any experience doing that to an fd.

Allbeit probobly a little harsh since it really wasnt meant for it, i do have some factors to help i believe.
I do have adjustable suspension with the tien drive master ha's
i also have 4.77 gears that should help me out.

oh yea and these glazed over kumho victoracers that someone did 1 to many burnouts on that were given to me for the event.

I think if i stiffen my rear suspension all the way(maybe adjust the trailing arms) i can cause it to want to slide. Also playing with some heel toe, and clutch kicking i have tried practicing for it a little bit. Not much yet. Its definatley harder to control than the 240 ive been practicing on for a while. Basically at first i was just 180ing it and what not, but i think im getting a little better.
Ive noticed when i clutch kick it, i just spin and hit the rev limit to quickly and it stops my drift, but if i clutch kick and shift into the next gear at the right time it somewhat slingshots me into a pretty nice sliding drift.

The whole reason for me wanting to try this out(its kinda hard to describe), i want to see what it takes to decrease the cars stability to help do the opposite for auto x-- like finding the line between stability and drifting and where to really turn fast there is a small amount of natural wheel 'drift' and i want to see where that is, and also i want to play around and learn to control it in the absolute worst conditions so that if i do happen to take a turn at to high of a speed at a road course, i may be able to recover.
I think by actually doing a south dakota drift association sanctioned event, it will teach me alot. Not just trying it out in a parking lot.

What do you think. Am i going at this with the right approach? Or did i just watch to much of the initial D anime one night and get a wild hair up my butt?
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Old 03-22-06, 08:27 AM
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the fast and the furrious 3:tokyo drift. **** yes
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Old 03-22-06, 12:12 PM
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Make sure the 'course' is nice before you go sliding around. I went go-karting at the Irwindale Speedway, and watched a kid slide his 240sx into a pole at the drift practice next door.

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Put some really crappy street tires in the rear and some good grippy tires in the front. Make sure the tires in the rear are narrow.

When I attnded a drift event in Miami the Falken team guys were running 245 Azenis in the front and really crappy 205 passanger tires in the rear. Over heat the rears so they are slippery and wala you have a drift car.
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California has so many events I love it here. Not just D1 or Formula D, but also for track days for drivers such a Drift Day, Just Drift, Drift Buffet. AutoX events, too.
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Old 03-23-06, 10:36 AM
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You might wanna try going a little harder all the way around on your spring rates. You still are going to want a balanced car. If you are running out of revs when you clutch kick then start your drift in a higher gear. or for learning just roll up to the first corner and snap it into 2nd. Thats a very good way to learn. Its easier to drift if you have more angle, if you are barely sideways you have less time to correct it from going straight. So try to get about mid way in the counter steering. Spinning out is part of learning, this lets you find the max drift angle. I would find some used tires, roughly the same size as the front, but wouldnt use some thing really grippy, or really hard. Really grippy you have to throw the car harder to step it out, so you have to be really fast to catch it before you spin. really hard tires will have no grip, and will wanna just let the car keep rotating, causing you to spin. Remeber let the car do most of the work, dont fight the steering wheel, just let it flow.
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Old 03-23-06, 12:06 PM
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im my opinion i find it easier to drift if you set it up for grip first. i would try to set up the car to handle the turns at speed. a set up that has more grip could save your *** if you lose it. ive seen to many rx7 hit the pole or the wall here in hawaii. once you feel comfortable with your cars grip and kinda know its limitations then you can excede its limits and start drifting. my point is dont crash your car!
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Old 03-23-06, 09:51 PM
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Drifting

Is

Not

Racing ......


(and this is a racing forum!)
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Old 03-24-06, 03:41 AM
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dont get on me for it. it was moved from the 3rd gen forum

thanks driftlanta, what types of tires and suspension settings would you suggest.

ive found practicing in extreme circumstances helps out for real.

a few nights ago i took that 240 out and drifted for like 3 hours in the snow at my spot. (2am + snow = absolutley no traffic at the place i go to ill have to get pics)
and it was scary at first. Ive played in the snow before, but that was with a Ford Mustang gt with truck snow/mud tires. I really pushed myself, and admittedly i almost biffed it a couple times from pushing so hard, put i think im starting to get the hang of really being able to control it under no stability and make it regain stability when i need to.

The rx7 is going to be sitting for about another week or until this stupid city cleans the streets of salt.
I have a new reason to do this now. The more races i participate with, the more money i will get from this local sponsor (IF i get it) i am meeting with him tomorrow. I swear, if somehow i get a sponsorship it will be one of the happiest days of my life
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Personally i really like falken ziex 512 on the rear, but if i had the money it would be the 615. I personally like about 2.5 neg camber in the front, 0 toe and maxed out caster at 6.2. I have solid rear so my settings might be different from yours. The stiffer the suspension the faster the car will rotate. So i would bring yours probably little stiffer than what you are use to, but on all four corners. TurboSa22 had good point, works best if you are at track, u can just over drive the car in the corners, ie power over. But if you are at parking lot thats not quite possible, so i always liked the 2nd gear snaps for starting out. Watch out for curbs, i have hit 2 many to count, and 1 tree.
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Old 03-25-06, 02:10 PM
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well the drift event is going to be at the Souix Falls Fairgrounds. It will be setup similar to auto X.

I seriously cant wait for it. I think it will be a lot of fun. To tell you the truth. I am pretty much just gonna go for a good time. Driving trips are always fun.
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Originally Posted by Boswoj
Drifting

Is

Not

Racing ......


(and this is a racing forum!)
Actually the title of this section of the forum is RACE CAR TECH. Most drift cars are setup just as well as a race car, and use many of the same parts. What is the major difference, spring rates and setups? BFD, get over it, or cry to the mods for a drift specific section. :smiley_12 Just my 2 cents.
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