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Wait'll you've choked off $300+ for PFC's!

p.s. I want it noted for the record that I meant to say "downside". I don't use words like "downsie". :-)

 

No waiting required. It would have to be a pretty amazing set of brake pads to get me to spend $300/pair. My track budget is very limited.

Dave

 

Dave, you'll be pleased with the N-Tech Pads. IIRC, the Competition pads have a little less initial bite compared to the Lapping Day's. IMO, that would be a good thing. The Lapping Day pads have an AutoX style initial bite which takes some time to get used to on the track.

What pads do you plan to run in the rear?

 

Actually Nick said they have more bite/torque than the lapping day pads.

I'm just trying to put a pad on the car that I know I can't outdrive. I have street tires and stock engine power so that's mostly an issue of front brakes. I'm planning to leave the HP Plus's on the rear. I know this throws my brake bias forward but I'm not trying to optimize here.

The HP Plus's have good initial bite, so as long as the rears don't get hot enough to fade I should be fine. Putting a higher torque pad up front will in theory lower my pedal pressure, push the brake bias even more forward, and reduce rear brake temps.

Based on what I'm hearing I've probably passed some of the learning curve already w.r.t. initial bite since I've been using the HP Plus's. They bite a lot harder than stockish pads, even when nearly cold.

Dave

 

Hmmm, I'll have to look back but I distinctly remember the Lapping Day pads having more torque than the Competition pads. But the competition pads having a little higher heat tolerance.


Anyway, here's an old thread talking about them:

https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/n-tech-competition-compound-440657/

Most people find that they don't heat up the rears enough with the stock brake bias to use a higher temp rear pad. A nice aggressive street pad should do well for you on the rear.

 

I've run PBR Metal Masters, Hawk Blues, Hawk Blacks and Carbotech XP10's and XP12's on an FC. I've run Hawk Blues,and PBR Metal Masters on an FB


For track use / autocross the Carbotechs work well. They can work on the street, but are a little aggressive and dusty. They don't fade and they wear quite slowly even when abused hard. Moderate to Easy on the rotors too.

For track use / autocross the Hawk blues don't work well. They eat the rotors and work very well on track days, but for autocross or street they are way too aggressive. I've destroyed rotors in two race weekends (about 6 hours of on-track time) using blues, they stop well, but holy rotor destruction.

The Hawk blacks don't handle track days that well. I've had them fade out after a dozen hard laps. They work well for autocross and street (dusty). They are moderate for Rotor wear.

For track use / Autocross the PBR Metal Masters don't hold up to hard track use and they wear out quickly. They work quite well for autocross and street, but can't keep up with hard lapping days.

My current setup is Carbotech XP12's on the front, XP8's in the rear. Works pretty well, but I've finally exceeded what the stock rotors can handle so I'm going to a custom Wilwood setup. I had a brake duct fold up and boiled Motul 600 brake fluid. I guess the stock brakes aren't made to stop a 420 rwhp race car on slicks.

my $0.02
-Trent

 

Not to change the subject, but these deposits are not coming off my rotors, so I'm going to replace them. Where do you guys go for your rotors and what brands do you recommend using/staying away from? rx7store only seems to carry slotted/drilled discs which I'm going to stay away from. Mazdamotorsports has OEM ones for what looks like $76/ea which seems like a good option unless there's something better out there.

 

I was using carbotech pads for a while, 1st started on XP8 front and 6 rear...moved upto xp12 front and xp10 rear...drove it on the street a few times and it was fine. I do remember a lot of dust!!! But performance for the $ is excellent. Now on (hawk) HT14 front and 10 rear...good package and easily steet-able. I' have driven w/ these pads on street tires a few times and if you go easy its fine too no major lock up issues. On the track XP10,12 or HT14 fronts seem to be the the best performers.

 

The Centric brand rotors that Stoptech /Pro Parts here in CA and ZeckhausenRacing in NJ sell are pretty good and well priced.

I have also bought blanks from GothamRacing and was satisfied with them.

 

I would just go with some cheapies from Autozone or a similar place. You can usually get 4 blanks for a little over a hundred. Many of the track guys I've seen have had good luck with them and they are cheap enough to keep a few sets around.