1st7heaven

Thats Sue alright.

Ohhh yaaahhh on the red heads, my wife is a red head.

SPOautos

OK, so I've got a FD with all the bolt ons, intake, full exhaust, absolutly no emissions, IC, upgraded twins, upgraded fuel system, PFC, 15psi of boost, little suspension stuff like sprins, tower strut brace, front anti sway bar, and I'm sure some other small things I'm forgetting.

What class does that put me in? I'm guessing a class where they are going to hand me my *** on a platter haha. What kind of cars would they throw me up against??? I know its mostly driver but I'd guess most of the guys in my class have been driving autox forever and have alot of track time.

STEPHEN

sbrx7

Maybe ASP, no rule book handy though. SM2 would welcome you without emission stuff. You'd be runnig against any two seat sports type car that has been modified past traditional "SP" mods.

Look at it this way, you have a top of the line car, so you should expect top of the line performance. Never mind what class you are in, go for FTD overall and classes don't matter

Steve Bertok
#74 SM2 94 MB touring

ALTurbo2

Has anyone taken a look at this page?

edit: nevermind. just saw it earlier in the thread

SleepR1

In comparing times, I've had many other "slower" classed cars driven by seriously good autocrossers beat my best time in ASP...

IMO, autocrossing is more about the driver than it is about the equipment...I'd go so far as to 80% driver, 20% equipment...

So it really doesn't matter what class you're in, so long as you continue to improve on your previous posted time.

FWIW, I really hate autocrossing. It's not the competition or the sport itself that I hate, it's the amount of time you burn up for a few measly runs!

Most of that wasted time is caused by the way SCCA runs Solo II.

DamonB

Yes, Su Brude and Beth McClure-Strelnieks both used to run RX-7's and are now in Z06's. They are both very quick and nice people. I took a tune up class with Beth and Su's Tripoint front bar lives on in my car Both of them can stomp my *** completely at any instant.

Beth claims she and Erik are going to go 3 rotor for the hell of it Su sold her Rex recently.

DamonB

It took me a while before I could outrun Gerry's tired '90 Civic hatch that runs HS. Somtimes I STILL don't beat Gerry's tired '90 Civic hatch that runs HS

SleepR1

I asked to run in H stock The SCCA guys looked at my car and said, "uhhh....NO!"

sbrx7

......but you guys are missing the most basic element of autocrossing. The question you have to ask is, would I rather learn to control my car at the limit at 60 MPH or less, or would I rather throw caution to the wind and turn it loose on a track somwhere and when I CAN'T control my car at the limit, and wind up in the trees at 100MPH? Autocrossing is the first rung in the performance driving ladder. Anybody who has ever attended more than one autocross sees the steady stream of "I know how drive" guys come and make fools of themselves. Autocross your car and learn every time you go out. Nothing more, nothing less. I spent a year and a half chasing lower classed cars, learning the craft. Now they chase me

Steve Bertok
#74 94 MB touring
2001 SCAC AP Champ
2002 SCAC SM2 Champ?
2003 Wheel to wheel anyone

SleepR1

This is an excellent point. I autocrossed for a full season before trying my first high speed drivers ed at Mid Ohio...

I found that autocrossing does help me with car control skills, and so when my lurid slide happened from a broken RF sway bar connection last May at Mid Ohio, I was able to gather the car up during a 70-mph slide!

I truly agree that road racers MUST start at autocrossing to be truly proficient at the high speed stuff.

Sadly, I'm still not competitive at autocrossing; it takes me too long to learn the course!

SPOautos

Thats what I'm wanting to do. When I get my car back together I'm doing autox for a season along with a high speed school. Then the next year I want to take it easy at a few high speed events and continue from there.

I really want to run some nice high speed tracks but realize I need to start out slow and learn my way around first. Also while doing autox I can get a feel for what mods I want to do next....haha

STEPHEN

peejay

Wait, so a ported engine WON'T throw you directly into Mod? Cool!

DamonB

It will throw you into Prepared

SleepR1

Who's familiar with SCCA Solo II 2002 rulebook?

What mods are allowed in SM2?

I've been running in ASP for 5 years, but I'm afraid I'm now in SM2 because of my recent '99 Type RS 4-wheel brake upgrade?

My other mods are a high-flow cat, catback, H&R springs, and Eibach swaybars...

Thanks in advance.

SleepR1

Who's familiar with SCCA Solo II 2002 rulebook?

What mods are allowed in SM2?

I've been running in ASP for 5 years, but I'm afraid I'm now in SM2 because of my recent '99 Type RS 4-wheel brake upgrade?

My other mods are a RB intake duct, K&N filter, high-flow cat, catback, H&R springs, and Eibach swaybars...

Thanks in advance.

SleepR1

Who's familiar with SCCS 2002 rulebook?

What mods are allowed in SM2?

I've been running in ASP, but I'm afraid I'm now in SM2 because of my '99 Type RS 4-wheel brake upgrade?

My other mods are a high-flow cat, catback, H&R springs, and Eibach swaybars...

Thanks in advance.

Buzzfish

http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/Rule..._modified.html

go nuts, in SM2 can do a lot more.

SleepR1

Buzzfish,

so is an FD Rx7 allowed in SM2? I wasn't clear on the SM rule?

Buzzfish

As long as your motor is smaller then 1.5L and the car weighs more then 2200 lb. then yes, you can run in SM2.

The only 2 seater cars excluded from SM2 off the bat are lotuses and anything excluded from Street prepared, which our cars are not.

Does anyone know how competitive they are nationally in SM2?

Rx7cat16

Currently the displacement limits are under review for SM2, they are looking at changing the allowable displacement for rotary engines to 3 liters. From everything I've heard this is going to go through, starting in January.
Which means that a 3 rotor rx7 will be legal in SM2
I think it would do _very_ well.
Haven't really seen any Rx7's competing in SM2 nationally yet, but the class is just starting to gather a following. Should be a really cool class in another year or two.

Beth

SleepR1

Banzai! 3-rotor, 8 psi, 550 hp! Woo Hoo!

redrotorR1

Well, that's your $35K ... ouch. But, as you probably already know, the 3-rotor transformation requires you to move the steering rack, which apparently induces a lot of bump-steer. With 550HP on tap and bump-steer ... be afraid, be very afraid. Or you could just be the donut-king of your local auto-x club.

On your previous question, SleepR1, your mods will keep you in ASP. Brakes are almost completely open in Street Prepared.

Any brake line, single or dual master cylinder, vacuum brake booster, brake proportioning valves may be used. This does not allow multiple separate cylinders, but does allow for any
single, dual-circuit cylinder. "Safety breakers" and units such as the "Brake Guard System" are permitted. ABS braking systems may be disabled, but not removed; brake boosters may
be removed or added. Air ducts may be fitted to the brakes, provided that they extend in a forward direction only, and that no changes are made in the body/structure for their use.
They may serve no other purpose. Backing plates and dirt shields may be modified or removed.

Buzzfish, the SM2 class is new this year. SM is being nationally recognized this year. So, maybe next year SM2 will be at Nationals as well.

Rx7cat16

There will be an SM2 class at Nationals this year, however it's a "provisional" or "supplemental" class. Which means that the winner won't be recognized in the back of the rulebook as a national champion. If the class continues to grow, and brings enough entrants to National Tours, and ProSolo's it should stay a provisional class for only one more year.

redrotorR1

Great. That gives me a year to save up the 10 large that I'll need to do all the SM2 modifications .... or maybe I should just be satisfied with SS and ASP.

peejay

Is that 3 liters rotary displacement or 3 liters adjusted displacement (1.5l rotary displacement) ?