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05-04-05, 12:54 PM
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sorry, i wasn't jumping down your throat. i agree with you, were at a damned if you do damned if don't situation. the 13b is probably not strong enough to compete w/ these guys, but a 20b is just too cost prohibitive. problem is the richer guys have jumped to the supra and eventually the 350z/g35, so not only do you have to compete against their power but their pocketbook as well. you're seeing $200k+ supras out there campaigning in the street tire classes.
05-06-05, 09:02 PM
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I know Ari is running a G force Transmission but which one
Is there a specific tranny that will only bolt on to the 13B???
I cant find anything on their website, is it clutchless??
I assume they are pretty expensive
Is there a specific tranny that will only bolt on to the 13B???
I cant find anything on their website, is it clutchless??
I assume they are pretty expensive
05-06-05, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 13btnos
Sorry have you been keeping up with the times that those six cylinders are doing? You do need a 20B to beat those sixes I hate to admit it but a 20B isn't even beating those sixes. http://ndra.nopi.com/eqraces/dsp_ere...0Street%20Tire hell look at the difference in times and in trap speed it's huge.
05-06-05, 10:37 PM
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he runs the 4 speed. its the 101 tranny. gforce offers a bellhousing adapter. They can make all kinds of adapters too. mike (gforce) just made me a bellhousing adapter for my 2jz motor.
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05-07-05, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DSMonster
how much power is he making i heard some where around 550-600
05-07-05, 10:20 PM
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http://www.longshifters.com/ check it out. They have all the goodies.
and nomatter who you talk to on the phone they are cool and good to deal with and know there **** bc they are all the guys who are in the shop and work on the trannys ..parts ect.
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and nomatter who you talk to on the phone they are cool and good to deal with and know there **** bc they are all the guys who are in the shop and work on the trannys ..parts ect.
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05-07-05, 10:23 PM
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there is no reason to run an auto really. Its a bit easier on driveline parts and doesnt shock the drivetrain when you launch the car but other than that there is no need.
05-08-05, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LETHAL RX7
there is no reason to run an auto really. Its a bit easier on driveline parts and doesnt shock the drivetrain when you launch the car but other than that there is no need.
sounds like a few great reasons for a drag car to me....
05-08-05, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LETHAL RX7
there is no reason to run an auto really. Its a bit easier on driveline parts and doesnt shock the drivetrain when you launch the car but other than that there is no need.
05-08-05, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LETHAL RX7
there is no reason to run an auto really. Its a bit easier on driveline parts and doesnt shock the drivetrain when you launch the car but other than that there is no need.
Whats Ari's biggest problem? You said yourself, he breaks driveline parts. The only time he breaks is launching. An auto fixes all those problems. So if his tune is right, he won't ever break. Not to mention an auto is more consistant and you'll run faster. He'll run high 8's all day with an auto. All problems solved!
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(You said yourself, he breaks driveline parts. The only time he breaks is launching))
What kind of driveline parts is he breaking exactly?
From what I understand he is running a KAAZ LSD which is pretty much unbreakable or is it possible he has so much power that the KAAZ cannot keep up with all that hard launching?
I still give him alot of credit. He is still one of my favorites to watch racing.
What kind of driveline parts is he breaking exactly?
From what I understand he is running a KAAZ LSD which is pretty much unbreakable or is it possible he has so much power that the KAAZ cannot keep up with all that hard launching?
I still give him alot of credit. He is still one of my favorites to watch racing.
05-09-05, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 13BNUT
(You said yourself, he breaks driveline parts. The only time he breaks is launching))
What kind of driveline parts is he breaking exactly?
From what I understand he is running a KAAZ LSD which is pretty much unbreakable or is it possible he has so much power that the KAAZ cannot keep up with all that hard launching?
I still give him alot of credit. He is still one of my favorites to watch racing.
What kind of driveline parts is he breaking exactly?
From what I understand he is running a KAAZ LSD which is pretty much unbreakable or is it possible he has so much power that the KAAZ cannot keep up with all that hard launching?
I still give him alot of credit. He is still one of my favorites to watch racing.
05-09-05, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RXTASY1
So what kind of an auto can you put in a FC? Please elaborate.
05-09-05, 06:11 PM
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The problem for ari is he wants to run in the turbo 6 cat and street tire class and you have to have a OEM tranny, im no expert but i cant think of a mazda tranny that would hold up!
05-09-05, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mmonaco
The problem for ari is he wants to run in the turbo 6 cat and street tire class and you have to have a OEM tranny, im no expert but i cant think of a mazda tranny that would hold up!
05-10-05, 07:17 AM
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as i said other than what i mentioned there is no reason for it. And a gforce or liberty and any other good tranny WILL allow more power to the ground than an automatic. Just bc you tag along with DEE doesnt mean that you know about the best things out there for drag racing.. So rather than put an automatic in it i would change the rear end all together. But autos are a good for most people bc they dont know how to set a car up. The rearend might mean he has to add weight or do whatever to the car but it will be much more tunable than an independant rear suspension car.. But im sure you knew this already.
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05-10-05, 07:53 AM
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05-10-05, 10:54 AM
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The NHRA 2005 rulebooks states on page 36 under Sport RWD " Tranmissions must be from the same manufacturer, no crossbreeding, i.e. Mazda/Ford Toyota/GM, ect. prohibited. Aftermarket transmission prohibited." Please show me where it say "Aftermarket tranny is legal for Mazda's, jut not the Toyota's".
05-10-05, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mmonaco
The NHRA 2005 rulebooks states on page 36 under Sport RWD " Tranmissions must be from the same manufacturer, no crossbreeding, i.e. Mazda/Ford Toyota/GM, ect. prohibited. Aftermarket transmission prohibited." Please show me where it say "Aftermarket tranny is legal for Mazda's, jut not the Toyota's".
And Greg, Again, Im only going on what I've experienced personally or have seen with my own eye's. An adapter plate is already produced for the Turbo 350 to mate up with the Mazda. Yes, the auto will rob some power, but you can't sit there and tell me that a manual is goin to be more consistant. Look at the outlaw and pro classes. Any of those running a manual?? Thought not. And a clutchless tranny would be even better yet.
05-10-05, 02:00 PM
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NDRA turbo 6 cat rulebook 2005 "TRANSMISSION: Factory available OEM manual gearbox / with an H-Pattern shifter or factory automatic transmission. Modifications limited to what fits completely within stock transmission and bell housing. Automatic transmissions allowed." Still dont see where you are getting this from, point it out to me.
http://ndra.nopi.com/2005/ndra_rulebook.cfm
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NDRA Streettire Class rulebook 2005 states "TRANSMISSION: Any transmission that is available as O.E.M. in a production car either import or domestic is allowed. No Clutch less, Liberty, Lenco, B.H.J. type transmissions allowed. NO sequential transmissions. Two and three speed automatic transmissions permitted."
http://ndra.nopi.com/2005/ndra_pro_rules.pdf
http://ndra.nopi.com/2005/ndra_pro_rules.pdf
