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Old 09-02-03, 01:24 PM
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Anyone try methenol injection?

A buddy of mine built a custom twin turbo Lexus LS400. He put together a custom methenol injection kit that comes in at a certain boost into the intake pipe. It's like a NOS setup, but is legal and is on at all times. Has anyone tried this? Is it safe to run in a rotary? What do you guess think?
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Re: Anyone try methenol injection?

Originally posted by RedAnotherDimension
A buddy of mine built a custom twin turbo Lexus LS400. He put together a custom methenol injection kit that comes in at a certain boost into the intake pipe. It's like a NOS setup, but is legal and is on at all times. Has anyone tried this? Is it safe to run in a rotary? What do you guess think?
you can check out the link in my sig or do a search. Methanol injection is identical to water injection.

been running it for a couple months now on my 3rd gen. sometimes I run methanol/water other times just pure water.

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You actually soundn't use more than 50% methanol (water/methanol sollution) because the methanol itself can pre-detonate in the combustion area. As long as you keep the sollution at or below 50/50 ratio it's a good idea as it'll give you a little extra boom

BTW Zerobanger, do you notice an increase in power with the methanol sollution? It could be that it just makes it easier for the spark to ignite the air/fuel mixture.

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Originally posted by Chronos
You actually soundn't use more than 50% methanol (water/methanol sollution) because the methanol itself can pre-detonate in the combustion area. As long as you keep the sollution at or below 50/50 ratio it's a good idea as it'll give you a little extra boom

BTW Zerobanger, do you notice an increase in power with the methanol sollution? It could be that it just makes it easier for the spark to ignite the air/fuel mixture.
Im not going to run any methanol anymore. I noticed a build up on the butterfly thingy going into the manifold. Its kinda white-ish almost looks like its was corosion. Then I read that methanol is not good for aluminum, etc. Also my water filter was aluminum on the inside and its all white now and pitted.

I use pure water now with iso alcohol sometimes now. I was only using about 35-40 pct methanol before (from windshield washer fluid).

Everything I read said pure water is best for preventing detonation anyway.
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oh yea and I felt no difference between pure water and the alc/water combo EXCEPT...on my inital setup when I was running too large of nozzle, it ran better when I added alcohol.

The car pulls like a pitbull even when its 105 outside, its amazing. The best mod you can do to your car and its so damn cheap.
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Water does indeed have a higher latent energy. That's something important to know about the methanol affecting the Al, I suppose if you really needed it, you could use Iso Alchohol instead of the methanol. Good info!
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Is running methenol the same as denatured alcohol?
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Is denatured alcohol safer/cleaner to run than methanol?
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