Power FC Too those who think about cutting the Pins or who HAVE
01-26-04, 03:57 AM
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Too those who think about cutting the Pins or who HAVE
Hello everyone , I havent posted in quite a long time because I've been so upset with my current circumstances that I didn't even want to think about RX-7's.
About 4 months ago I purchase a Power FC and commander from Jason at Rx-7 store. I recieved the Power FC a week later Commander-less (because Jason didnt tell me they were out of stock and I got to find out the fun way) and installed it in my car. I cancelled the Commander order from Rx-7 store and ordered it from Gotham racing and recieved it in 4 days. The Powe.r FC ran fine and I loved it. Then all hell broke loose.
When I recieved the the Commander 4 days later from gotham racing, I plugged it in and tried to start my car, and all helll broke loose as my entire motor filled with fuel to the extent of pouring out my intakes. Some of you may remember a previous post about this happening. It turns out my ECU shorted out when the Commander was plugged into it. I had cut the pins, and cut the wires on my harness (rx-7stores suggestion when I was having the flooding problems)
I called Jason told him the problem, and he had me send it back to XS engineering. This was around October 15th 2003. I sent it back, and awaited the diagnosis and what was to be done to my ECU.
I rarely got any sort of response from Jason other then " I dont know whats happening," "Idont know why its taking so long" You should get it back soon " etc etc etc. This happened every week or so. I waited for 4 long months and still had no ECU.
Finally one day I recieved a PM from Jason telling me the Power FC was on its way back to him from Apexi. Apexi (supposedly, dont know if he didnt want to break me the news or somthing) that they were finished with it and sending it back.
Finally after 4 months my ecu was returning!! I got it back on a cold day In January and plugged it back into my car. GREAT DAY I thought.
I put it on, turned the key to on and low and behold the fans came on ( Power Fc telling you somthing is wrong ) Try to crank the motor and the same thing happens. 4 months and my ecu wasnt even touched it appears.
I call Jason up furious and his comment was
Jason > "Was there anything written on the Diagonosis and repair sheet from Apexi?:
Me >> no why?
Jason " yeah thats what I thought, they didnt tell me that they did any work to it "
I remained silent after this
Jason " let me call them and find out what they did to it, call me back in 20 min"
so I did and He had nothing but bad news to tell me. It turns out that my warrenty was not being backed up, and they were not going to fix my shorted out Power FC because I CUT THE PINS instead of hacking up my precious wiring harness like hundreds of people choose to do. Apexi's claim was that it shorted out because I pulled one of the pins slightly when I was cutting them, and it made contact with another pin. This is bullshit. Why you ask? Because...
one. There isnt even an electrical signal going through the pin that touched the other one because the pins cut.
Two, I opended the power FC and the PINS arent even touching like they claim ( I'll post pics soon )
Three, the POWER FC was running perfectly untill I got the commander and installed the commander.
So basically their claim made no sense, and It turns out they wont repair it because they dont want to, and wont because I "voided the warrenty by cutting the pins".
So I talk to Jason, and he is trying pull some strings.
However, he tells me that he thnks there is only one guy that works in the repair department in a multimillion (billion? ) dollar company and he doesnt even think they repair power FC.s right. I dont even know what to believe anymore bcause this all sounds so fishy.
So not only am I out a Power FC (900)$ thats sitting in front of me collecting dust, but from Rx-7 stores advice I also cut my wiring harness to make sure the pins were not still making a connection or some crap.
Now it seems like im being fed bullshit and that my ecu wont even be repaired.
This is simply a fair warning to those who buy power FC"s and debate weather or not to cut the pins or cut the wires on the main harness. Cut the pins and you risk going through this horrible situation that I am in.
I also ask for any advice, or any information on Where I can get my Power FC repaired. Please any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Pics coming soon.
About 4 months ago I purchase a Power FC and commander from Jason at Rx-7 store. I recieved the Power FC a week later Commander-less (because Jason didnt tell me they were out of stock and I got to find out the fun way) and installed it in my car. I cancelled the Commander order from Rx-7 store and ordered it from Gotham racing and recieved it in 4 days. The Powe.r FC ran fine and I loved it. Then all hell broke loose.
When I recieved the the Commander 4 days later from gotham racing, I plugged it in and tried to start my car, and all helll broke loose as my entire motor filled with fuel to the extent of pouring out my intakes. Some of you may remember a previous post about this happening. It turns out my ECU shorted out when the Commander was plugged into it. I had cut the pins, and cut the wires on my harness (rx-7stores suggestion when I was having the flooding problems)
I called Jason told him the problem, and he had me send it back to XS engineering. This was around October 15th 2003. I sent it back, and awaited the diagnosis and what was to be done to my ECU.
I rarely got any sort of response from Jason other then " I dont know whats happening," "Idont know why its taking so long" You should get it back soon " etc etc etc. This happened every week or so. I waited for 4 long months and still had no ECU.
Finally one day I recieved a PM from Jason telling me the Power FC was on its way back to him from Apexi. Apexi (supposedly, dont know if he didnt want to break me the news or somthing) that they were finished with it and sending it back.
Finally after 4 months my ecu was returning!! I got it back on a cold day In January and plugged it back into my car. GREAT DAY I thought.
I put it on, turned the key to on and low and behold the fans came on ( Power Fc telling you somthing is wrong ) Try to crank the motor and the same thing happens. 4 months and my ecu wasnt even touched it appears.
I call Jason up furious and his comment was
Jason > "Was there anything written on the Diagonosis and repair sheet from Apexi?:
Me >> no why?
Jason " yeah thats what I thought, they didnt tell me that they did any work to it "
I remained silent after this
Jason " let me call them and find out what they did to it, call me back in 20 min"
so I did and He had nothing but bad news to tell me. It turns out that my warrenty was not being backed up, and they were not going to fix my shorted out Power FC because I CUT THE PINS instead of hacking up my precious wiring harness like hundreds of people choose to do. Apexi's claim was that it shorted out because I pulled one of the pins slightly when I was cutting them, and it made contact with another pin. This is bullshit. Why you ask? Because...
one. There isnt even an electrical signal going through the pin that touched the other one because the pins cut.
Two, I opended the power FC and the PINS arent even touching like they claim ( I'll post pics soon )
Three, the POWER FC was running perfectly untill I got the commander and installed the commander.
So basically their claim made no sense, and It turns out they wont repair it because they dont want to, and wont because I "voided the warrenty by cutting the pins".
So I talk to Jason, and he is trying pull some strings.
However, he tells me that he thnks there is only one guy that works in the repair department in a multimillion (billion? ) dollar company and he doesnt even think they repair power FC.s right. I dont even know what to believe anymore bcause this all sounds so fishy.
So not only am I out a Power FC (900)$ thats sitting in front of me collecting dust, but from Rx-7 stores advice I also cut my wiring harness to make sure the pins were not still making a connection or some crap.
Now it seems like im being fed bullshit and that my ecu wont even be repaired.
This is simply a fair warning to those who buy power FC"s and debate weather or not to cut the pins or cut the wires on the main harness. Cut the pins and you risk going through this horrible situation that I am in.
I also ask for any advice, or any information on Where I can get my Power FC repaired. Please any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Pics coming soon.
01-26-04, 06:35 PM
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If it was fine until the commander was inserted, maybe the commander is the problem. Fucked up or wrong version for your PFC. Or maybe you inserted the 5 pin din plug in wrong.
Unfortunately tampering with the unit voids the warranty, a choice you made.
If you had purchase it from SR with the pins already cut, then you would have a recourse.
We all make some bad choices in our lives and have to life with the results.
Unfortunately tampering with the unit voids the warranty, a choice you made.
If you had purchase it from SR with the pins already cut, then you would have a recourse.
We all make some bad choices in our lives and have to life with the results.
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I pulled the pins out of the PC board, bent them straight back, and put heatshrink tubing on them. Worked fine, and I can return it to as new whenever I want.
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