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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 05:12 PM
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map reference question

Pretty sure I see how to do it, but the map is a 20x20 block and hitting around 17psi I am at the 19 block. Just put in a 3 bar map sensor and adjusted the PIM reference, but to actually go higher I am guessing I have to change the map reference specs for PIM as if I am changing the rpms to go higher than 8K. Anyone have the values they are using up to at least 22psi? Seems the stock has 1K increments until block 16.
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 06:09 PM
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To add more boost P rows, you must eliminate/remove some of the useless rows.
Most stock engines idle in row 4. Thus it is easy to remove rows 1 - 2 by moving the current rows up for all three maps. That allows adding 2 higher boost rows.

Then the low vacuum rows used only for acceleration from cruise to boost can also be removed.
Same idea can be used for rpm columns.
I added a little for both for my calibrated Apexi/Denso 3 bar.

Just calculate the ABS PIM values.

((ABS-PIM/10000) * 14.22) -14.7 = psi
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 07:51 PM
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So that scale goes to 15.7psi?
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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I always use row P20 as an over boost row with low timing and very rich fuel. I do this even though my EBC has over boost protection. Safety first for our touchy engines.

My 4 boost rows that my EBC allows are exactly 2 psi apart.

P16 = 11.8 for running 12 psi
P17 = 13.8 for running 14 psi
P18 = 15.8 for running 16 psi

P19 = 22856. (22856 / 10000) * 14.22 - 14.7 = 17.8 for running 18 psi boost.

P20 = 24262. (24262 / 10000) * 14.22 - 14.7 = 19.8 for 20 psi over boost.

Due to much testing and calibration which very few people or tuners do but I do/did;
(1) I always first calibrate my map sensors. This insures that the values calculated by the PFC are correct and accurate compared to my expensive calibration
pressure gauges. The stock scale/offsets can be used but they all are inaccurate! They give low results.
(2) With a 2 bar, when boost is climbing and reaches .25 psi below the next highest ABS value in the table, it starts to use the next row a little.
Extrapolation can be seen on a log as a few hits in adjacent rows.
(2) With a 3 bar it happens around .2 psi.
(3) By trial and testing in the past for my 2 psi rows running calibrated values, I can get my PFC to only run in the boost rows for which boost I select.
My Blitz EBC with active feedback control can actually keep my boost very linear once boost reaches the set target boost.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 04:15 AM
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