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Old 03-30-12, 09:39 PM
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Question Car Starts on stock ECU, not with PFC

Can anyone throw some ideas my way? Its a brand new PFC. The car will only crank and crank and crank. If I plug the stock ecu back it, it fires right up.

The Green/Black CAS wire has been cut, and it looks like the previous owner ran a new wire to the CAS.

Why would the car start on the stock ecu but not all on the PFC?
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Having a Datalogit would make it easier to diagnose.

From memory: Go to monitor-->1 channel. Select RPM. Press "next" so that you have what looks like a chart format. When you turn the engine over (Key in start position to crank) do you see rpm rising up? There should be a line rising up.
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Does the commander light up?
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Originally Posted by Banzai-Racing
Does the commander light up?
Yes, it does. Ill post a pic of sensor values when I get home. Ill also check the rpm.
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With the stock ecu installed, these are the codes its showing

05 - Knock sensor ??????
28 - Solenoid valve (EGR) <-----disabled/removed
30 - Solenoid valve (split air bypass) <-----disabled/removed
34 - Solenoid valve (idle speed control) <-----unplugged
38 - Solenoid valve (accelerated warm up system) <-----disabled/removed
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When cranking the engine, the PFC shows 0rpm, as well as the Tach.
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I took out the alternator and found where the g/b CAS wires were cut and half-assed back together. i crimped new ends on and half-assed them back together again, and now the car starts, runs, and goes fast. do this readout look ok at idle? the pfc didnt seem to go through a learning process....is this because i had it mapped?
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Nvm.

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Hope its okay to hijack your thread a little, I have the same problem as you had in the first place but my commander doesn`t start at all and I have tried 2 PFC in the car but the stock ecu (Knight Sport ECU) it fires up.

Any ideès?
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The PFC requires all four of the grounds to be in good order (4A, 4B, 4C, 4D). I have seen cars with stock ECU's run fine with one missing, then install a PFC and get nothing. So this is the place that I would start looking.
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Okay, I will check them Thanks
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Originally Posted by Banzai-Racing
The PFC requires all four of the grounds to be in good order (4A, 4B, 4C, 4D). I have seen cars with stock ECU's run fine with one missing, then install a PFC and get nothing. So this is the place that I would start looking.
According to my electrical-diagram 4D is for the Metering Oil Pump?
Do I have wrong diagram??
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OMP is 3A, 4I,4J,4K,4L

I do not know what you are looking at but it is not the correct pinout for the 93 FD.
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