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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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How much torque do these cars need? They're already a thousand pounds lighter than Vipers.
Really? Your car only weighs 2400 lbs? That's DAMN light!

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phils car makes 683HP/509TQ at 7500rpm. span on the dyno after that
and its built to go 9k rpm which works out to about 720hp

so about 700hp with 500tq is not quite as good as a 700hp v8, but its cheaper, probably more reliable (depending on the v8 build) and its definately cheaper.
I suppose a ridiculous engine swap thread wouldn't be complete without a bit of bench racing, huh?

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How's that paper route working out? Got an FC of your own yet?
LOL!
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rarson
Really? Your car only weighs 2400 lbs? That's DAMN light!



I suppose a ridiculous engine swap thread wouldn't be complete without a bit of bench racing, huh?



LOL!
My understanding was that vipers weighed close to 3800lbs. Then again I haven't checked, I just know they're quite a bit heavier than Corvettes which weigh in at 3000-3200lbs.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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According to Edmunds, a 2005 convertible weighs in at just over 3400 lbs, while a 2006 coupe weighs in under 3400 lbs.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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If I was going to do a viper engine, I would go solid axle with a 3:1 rear and twin turbo it.

Then you could weelie down half the track
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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If I was going to do a viper engine, I would go solid axle with a 3:1 rear and twin turbo it.

Then you could weelie down half the track
Yea, throw some ****** rockets on the back, some wings on the sides, call it a fighter jet.

Seriously tho, anyone else notice how alotta people just smoke crack and come post their fucked up ideas on this board? has the original poster even seen a srt-10 motor before? or a viper for that matter? notice how long the hoods are on those cars? jesus christ.

oh well i would rather see a post about a srt-10 swap then a post with pics on an FC with 20's like i have before... lol.

done with the rant.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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chill dude it was joke
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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Maybe you should limit your posting to Torque Central. They seem to appreciate day dream projects proposed by people who can't really afford them. And those who "can" afford them... but who end up selling a few months after completion because -- although it was perfect in every way -- they're just ready to move on to something else. *wink *wink*

In fact, now that I think about it, 99% of the people who post in the V8 RX7 forum on Torque Central are just basically full of ****.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
In fact, now that I think about it, 99% of the people who post in the V8 RX7 forum on Torque Central are just basically full of ****.
Jim, I may just have to make room in my signature for that one
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Maybe you should limit your posting to Torque Central. They seem to appreciate day dream projects proposed by people who can't really afford them. And those who "can" afford them... but who end up selling a few months after completion because -- although it was perfect in every way -- they're just ready to move on to something else. *wink *wink*

In fact, now that I think about it, 99% of the people who post in the V8 RX7 forum on Torque Central are just basically full of ****.
Why are you here then?
lets look at the first page:

srt10
skyline engine
twin turbo v8
4g63
miata motor
ka24det

none of these have been done before and if so very little so everyone here must be dreaming
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by photopaintball
phils car makes 683HP/509TQ at 7500rpm. span on the dyno after that
and its built to go 9k rpm which works out to about 720hp

so about 700hp with 500tq is not quite as good as a 700hp v8, but its cheaper, probably more reliable (depending on the v8 build) and its definately cheaper.

plus, what about the weight. a twin turbo set up weighs a lot compared to a built 2.3 with an aluminum head and ss header


if you want people to smile when they see your engine -get a v8
if you want people to cry when they get beat -get a 2.3t

since my car's weight is a major goal, the light engine is important to me.
What is the weight of your light engine with all the turbo and I/C plumbing?

And, just to restate your beliefs here, a 304 hp/L 1980's Ford engine is more reliable then a 100 hp/L 21st century GM V8?

Makes sense to me. I've seen the light. Anyone want a few GM LSx engines? I'm trading up to a 2.3L ford.

In regard to the V10, twin turbo V8, skyline engine, V8 engine and your 600 HP for that matter. Come back here in a year and see how many of these projects come to fruition.
I've actually done and driven 5 different chevy V8s in my car, I'm still looking for the right combination; I've done LS1s and SBCs in other FCs. I've seen what can fit, what works, and I know how much it costs to put a setup together, and that's taking into consideration I do all my own fabrication (whenever it's not more time/cost effective to just buy things built, such as proven engine mounts). I know what it takes to make HP, and how much money it takes to get there. Hell, I quit counting at 15K invested in my FC, and it's sitting in my garage waiting on parts at the moment, and I've yet to finish putting my 370 together.

Come back, prove everyone wrong, I'm happy to eat crow, I've done it before, but until them, you can continue to expect the put up or shut up attitude.

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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by photopaintball
Why are you here then?
lets look at the first page:

srt10
skyline engine
twin turbo v8
4g63
miata motor
ka24det

none of these have been done before and if so very little so everyone here must be dreaming
Wrong. The "Skyline engine" (which is a very vague term considering the number of different engines that actually came in the Skyline) has been done before. There are at least 2 4g63 RX-7 projects in the works, and the KA24 has been done before, too. Maybe you need to research some more...
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by digitalsolo
What is the weight of your light engine with all the turbo and I/C plumbing?
I tell you what, a cast-iron 4-cylinder block is a heavy bitch, especially with a DOHC head, turbo, and all that other crap associated with it.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by photopaintball
so everyone here must be dreaming
Basically.

Let me know when any of those posters finishes a car with the engine they started asking questions about. Even Capn, who posted questions for two years about using a Cadillac Northstar V8, now has a different engine. Nihilanthic, of course, still has no engine and no car to put it in if he did.

People may want to be different... but then reality usually sets in. There's a reason why people aren't using every engine they can find in the local junkyard just because it's "cheap".
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Even the twin turbo V8 has been done. It didn't make **** for power because the owner wouldn't listen to anyone's cam recommendations for use with forced induction, but it's been done.

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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Wow, that's a pretty nice seutp, shame about the cam selection.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Amazing, on the TT V8 FD, where is the radiator and intercooler?

Originally Posted by photopaintball
phils car makes 683HP/509TQ at 7500rpm. span on the dyno after that
and its built to go 9k rpm which works out to about 720hp....

so about 700hp with 500tq is not quite as good as a 700hp v8, but its cheaper, probably more reliable (depending on the v8 build) and its definately cheaper. ...
I simply do not believe that its cheaper to make any 4cyl car engine thus manufactured reach the HP and TQ quoted above, vs a V8.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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I simply do not believe that its cheaper to make any 4cyl car engine thus manufactured reach the HP and TQ quoted above, vs a V8.
You missed a word there; reliably. I can make 600 HP out of a honda, a rotary or a GSX-R 1000 for a fairly low amount of money (relatively speaking). Doing it and having it continue to run for more then 1 or 2 passes is another story.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalsolo
You missed a word there; reliably. I can make 600 HP out of a honda, a rotary or a GSX-R 1000 for a fairly low amount of money (relatively speaking). Doing it and having it continue to run for more then 1 or 2 passes is another story.
yeah anyone remember the RS200? Little car made sick horsepower but after about 10 hours the engine was toast.

So that brings me to my next statement, if Ford can make a high output four cylinder only last about 10 hours; my educated guess tells me that someone with "a budget of $5,000" won't come close, and probably fail miserably.

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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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It looks like equal parts 1st gen eclipse, second gen Mr2 and early porche 911.

To be fair to ford the RS200 was nearly a dedicated race car, even the production version. Very short life span was a design factor, just like it was for the FD

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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by slo
Amazing, on the TT V8 FD, where is the radiator and intercooler?
FMIC, radiator laying flat (no comment)...

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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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^^LOL! hope he doesnt drive over any gravel! although i bet it cools great with all the air flowing across it instead of, you know, THROUGH it. haha
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