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Old 05-23-06, 01:41 PM
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it is an actual fact that the SR20DET engine can produce up to 500hp on stock internals.
WHAT!!?? NO.
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Originally Posted by cptpain
it is an actual fact that the SR20DET engine can produce up to 500hp on stock internals. nissan over engineers their engines just like toyota did with their 2JZ. my local shop www.streetworkstx.com has a green 240 with an sr that makes around 380hp and its best time in the 1/4 was a low 12 with suspention setup for drifting until his wastegate vacuumhose blew off and ran unlimited(?) boost. there is video of it. i might also add that the oraange 240 has an RB25 from an R33 Skyline GTS-typeM and its all stock and he runs a consistent 13.1-.2's. dont underestimate the SR just because the motor is a 4banger doesnt mean it can handle power. reliably it can handle 450hp. but on 500hp youre starting to stress the crank...but there are some 240s in houston pushing a little over 500 on stock internals and just using an upgraded turbo, and ECU tuning, and injectors
It's more like 350 and you run out of room with power.
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Originally Posted by V8Mongrel
Guess that makes sense. Were someone to tell me that they wanted a turbo 2.0 engine, I guess my first choice would be the 4G63T. Sure it is not as easy to go RWD, but the engine is still produced, in this country in large quantities, the DSM knowledge base is awesome and while DSMs are generally regarded as not very well made, it is commonly held opinion that everything else will fail before the 4G63 even blinks an eye.
Not to jack the thread, but yeah, it would be my first choice. The 4g63 has a couple things going for it that the SR20 doesn't, but then again, the SR20 has the benefit of the lighter aluminum block.

Although, the 4g63 WILL hold 450hp on stock internals, even a 7-bolt. Actually, I haven't even cracked the original factory headgasket yet... (not that I'm making 450 hp, but I AM making about 400, flywheel)
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That's sick. I dont care for the 4G63 as much as the SR personally b/c everyone and their mama has an eclipse in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. lol. (not discrediting the motor by any means... its just too boring now.)
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pics pics pics pics pics pics....all i have to say...
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okay what i need to see now is how the subframe was fabricated. because you have peaked my interest.
Old 06-01-06, 01:56 PM
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Don't know how I missed this thread. Congrats on getting the beast running, and glad the driveshaft shop I recommended was able to hook you up! Can't wait to see that thing on the road.
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yes, the sr can make about 450 on stock internals. IE pistons and rods. you'd need bigger turbo, injectors. intake mani, rocker arm stoppers, cams, head port polish, and an *** of boost. but theres one here in charleston at 400 stock internals
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Originally Posted by RotaryDrift
yes, the sr can make about 450 on stock internals. IE pistons and rods. you'd need bigger turbo, injectors. intake mani, rocker arm stoppers, cams, head port polish, and an *** of boost. but theres one here in charleston at 400 stock internals
then its not stock internals, its a stock bottom end.
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"Internals" generally refers to the rotating assembly. The only difference is the "bottom end" includes the block as well. Nobody ever includes camshafts in either. Good job continuing the threadjacking though.
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Originally Posted by Crash Test Joey
"Internals" generally refers to the rotating assembly. The only difference is the "bottom end" includes the block as well. Nobody ever includes camshafts in either. Good job continuing the threadjacking though.
Err, no. "Stock internals" means everything between the valve cover and oil pan is as it was from the factory, or is factory-spec parts. Including bolts and gaskets! Something with studs and a beefy headgasket is no longer stock internals, that's why they are always used as a qualifier ("bone stock except for ARP bolts and a SCE head gasket" for example).

Camshafts are most definitely included, as they are practically what define an engine's characteristics.
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I see Peejay had the same train of thought as me!

However, when you dump thousands of dollars into an SR20 on things like headgaskets, cams, lifters, valves, headstuds, etc. it's anything but 'stock'. you can call it stock if you want, I just think if you claim you can run 450whp on stock internals you should mention its with thousands of dollars worth of 'stock' internals. im not trying to threadjack, i just hate to see misinformation spread.
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Originally Posted by NOPR
I see Peejay had the same train of thought as me!

However, when you dump thousands of dollars into an SR20 on things like headgaskets, cams, lifters, valves, headstuds, etc. it's anything but 'stock'. you can call it stock if you want, I just think if you claim you can run 450whp on stock internals you should mention its with thousands of dollars worth of 'stock' internals. im not trying to threadjack, i just hate to see misinformation spread.
Stock car.
Pro Stock.

Stock is a meaningless word now, in some circles. I do agree that when someone says that a motor is stock it means as delivered from the factory with any replacement parts meeting factory spec.
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Cool.
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Nice job!

Here is your Ecotec built for boost:



Needs a bigger turbo:

http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...lstice_SAE.pdf

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Old 06-07-06, 07:33 PM
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write up please! this is a sick swap and i have both an FC and S14.
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woowoooo! isn't that sr bad *** in there? i'm the guy that bought his chevy setup and when he told me he was going with the sr20 i was very stoked to see how it would come out. before i bought his old setup i was SOOO close to putting a turbo ka24de motor in mine but the cost/hp wasn't worth it.

when he says that the v8 was relentless he wasn't kidding. i've changed many pieces of the combo now and it's absolutely insane. i leave stoplights in second gear because 1st is nothing but a burnout at anything more than 1/4 throttle. LOL regardless it's all about what suits your driving style. i'm insane so the v8 fits me.

alot of people here have nicely setup sr's in their 240's and the most power i've seen locally on stock internals is 300rwhp but that includes some serious cams and thick *** metal head gasket using some ihi turbo upgrade w/ power fc to tune it. what i like most about sr engines is their amazing exhaust sound!!! soooo menacing!

now i will join everyone else by saying... "VIDEOS NOW FOR THE WIN!!!!!"
Old 06-29-06, 11:54 PM
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So how did you modify the sub-frame to receive the SR - what mods to the oil pan did you make?
I'd be interested in seing this done also in something like hmm.. an FD
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