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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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and that would be stupid considering a bump steer kit costs $100... id pay 100 bucks over looking at a ugly *** hood forever.
i hear, and i may be wrong... that many places say they will do the swap. then when they start getn there hand dirty the back out... bc there is so much custom fab work to be done... so just be careful who you choose to do the swap

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The 2jzswap/Tech2Moto (same company) subframe does not move the steering rack so no bumpsteer fix is needed. Engine would stick out of the stock hood however.
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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and that would be stupid considering a bump steer kit costs $100... id pay 100 bucks over looking at a ugly *** hood forever.
i hear, and i may be wrong... that many places say they will do the swap. then when they start getn there hand dirty the back out... bc there is so much custom fab work to be done... so just be careful who you choose to do the swap
Different strokes...the bump steer issue is more important to me than the hood. It only requires the same clearance as the Scoot hood, which is fine for me. If it needed the hood used on the SP engineering Supra7 it would be a no go for me.

I hear you about the shops backing out 1/2 way through. They already completed a running one with all gauges/amenities working, and road/track tested the car. Everyone that saw the car at Sema that I spoke to (2 people) looked under the car, and said the steering rack was in the stock location, and the company was legit.

They have also had a kit out for a while for the 2jz swap in 240sx, with over 60 kits sold, and plenty of finished running conversions. I know it's a totally different car, but at least they have some history of following through.

They guaranteed me everything in writing regarding the main points I'm worried about. (I want a no excuse car, a/c, ps, gauges, ZERO bumpsteer, etc)

I hope they come through. I'm all to experienced on how these projects can go south in a hurry, so my eyes are wide open. So far so good, they seem like really good people (family owned), intelligent, professional, and responsive. The car should be running in Feb.
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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Different strokes...the bump steer issue is more important to me than the hood. It only requires the same clearance as the Scoot hood, which is fine for me. If it needed the hood used on the SP engineering Supra7 it would be a no go for me.

I hear you about the shops backing out 1/2 way through. They already completed a running one with all gauges/amenities working, and road/track tested the car. Everyone that saw the car at Sema that I spoke to (2 people) looked under the car, and said the steering rack was in the stock location, and the company was legit.

They have also had a kit out for a while for the 2jz swap in 240sx, with over 60 kits sold, and plenty of finished running conversions. I know it's a totally different car, but at least they have some history of following through.

They guaranteed me everything in writing regarding the main points I'm worried about. (I want a no excuse car, a/c, ps, gauges, ZERO bumpsteer, etc)

I hope they come through. I'm all to experienced on how these projects can go south in a hurry, so my eyes are wide open. So far so good, they seem like really good people (family owned), intelligent, professional, and responsive. The car should be running in Feb.
that sounds great to me! shoot i love the fd 2jz!! the more on the road the better... what kind of power will you be making? stock/built, single/stock twins, etc...?? oh and what computer are you going to run?
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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that sounds great to me! shoot i love the fd 2jz!! the more on the road the better... what kind of power will you be making? stock/built, single/stock twins, etc...?? oh and what computer are you going to run?
No where near what you will be making. I have a Turbonetics T61 single on it. I'm actually going to run the JDM setup w/USDM 550cc inj. I have a Mines JDM ECU, and MapECU 2 on it. HKS 264 cams, Unorhodox Cam Gears. Bosch 040 pump. I didn't want to do the fuel system, as I'm only looking for 500rwhp on pump gas. Only plan to run race fuel on the road course to keep things cool.

I did the cams since the motor was out of the car, it was easier to do now...

I had a T66 Mkiv Supra from 2000 to 2003. Used to run mid 10's on DR all day long back then. Melted the #6 piston when one of my dual pumps stopped working. Car still ran strong but went lean when it happened.

I've been enjoying my N/A c6 the last couple of yrs. 518 to the wheels. Awesome on the road course. I hope the FD will be a bit more dramatic being 400lbs lighter w/similar power.

I plan to keep things mild and simple this time... (we'll see how long that lasts...lol).
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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No where near what you will be making. I have a Turbonetics T61 single on it. I'm actually going to run the JDM setup w/USDM 550cc inj. I have a Mines JDM ECU, and MapECU 2 on it. HKS 264 cams, Unorhodox Cam Gears. Bosch 040 pump. I didn't want to do the fuel system, as I'm only looking for 500rwhp on pump gas. Only plan to run race fuel on the road course to keep things cool.

I did the cams since the motor was out of the car, it was easier to do now...

I had a T66 Mkiv Supra from 2000 to 2003. Used to run mid 10's on DR all day long back then. Melted the #6 piston when one of my dual pumps stopped working. Car still ran strong but went lean when it happened.

I've been enjoying my N/A c6 the last couple of yrs. 518 to the wheels. Awesome on the road course. I hope the FD will be a bit more dramatic being 400lbs lighter w/similar power.

I plan to keep things mild and simple this time... (we'll see how long that lasts...lol).

hahahahaha i hear you there!!! thats all i had in the works also... keep it mild. well then 2 cars later, a gt4202 and somewhere close to 25k in performance parts later i ended up here! lol
im sooo damn excited about 60+mph pulls with 1000cc bikes. i built the car with intentions of pulling away from bikes
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i have a good question for you Stage7... i have been looking for some time now. i need a usdm 93+ 2jzgte engine wiring harness... suprafourms has them but they sell so damn fast i cant ever get one. know of any other place to check?
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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there was one on ebay recently
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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now what transmission if any are those weights referenced after?
164lbs isnt to bad stock fot stock... i bet i lost 10ish on the exaust manifold, 25+lbs on the turbo setup, and 5-8lbs on the intake manifold... thats just a guess in weight though. we will all see what the total weight is when its done.


sorry i'm a little late responding to your question, but those weights i listed were with no transmission. just the engine and all accessories with flywheel.

the T56 and the supra tranny, from what i've read, are about 50 lbs heavier than the FD tranny.
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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sorry i'm a little late responding to your question, but those weights i listed were with no transmission. just the engine and all accessories with flywheel.

the T56 and the supra tranny, from what i've read, are about 50 lbs heavier than the FD tranny.
yeah they are. but a few lbs here and there wont hurt a thing as long as i have it balanced... plus 800-1000 whp will more than make up for 165lbs! haha
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yeah i agree with you on the HP thing.

i was just curious prior to looking up the weights of the engines. i was surprised to find that the 2jz weighed that much more.

that's an extra 214 lbs (with the tranny, which supposedly weighs 50lbs more), and that puts you over 3000 lbs. of course your setup is different, and there are many more things to factor on, just stating these numbers for reference.
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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hahahahaha i hear you there!!! thats all i had in the works also... keep it mild. well then 2 cars later, a gt4202 and somewhere close to 25k in performance parts later i ended up here! lol
im sooo damn excited about 60+mph pulls with 1000cc bikes. i built the car with intentions of pulling away from bikes
lol...it's a disease isn't it? I can't wait to see your car run. It will be sick.

Sorry I don't know anyone that has a Supra harness. I think you can use the JDM harness. From what I understand it's only 3 pinouts or so that are different and are easily changed to fit the USDM computer/or AEM.

If you are willing to mod the JDM harness, you may expand your pool of available harnesses. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
yeah i agree with you on the HP thing.

i was just curious prior to looking up the weights of the engines. i was surprised to find that the 2jz weighed that much more.

that's an extra 214 lbs (with the tranny, which supposedly weighs 50lbs more), and that puts you over 3000 lbs. of course your setup is different, and there are many more things to factor on, just stating these numbers for reference.
214 still isnt all that bad. what is the average weight of a roll cage? bc that will be added in also. there is no doubt weight being added... how much is still to be seen?? there are many grain scales around the town i live in and they are within a pound of exact weight. ill run it to a scale when its all finished up.
id like to put it on corner scales to balance L/R side. but i dont know anyone with those??

corvette zo6 3130lbs
ford gt 3468lbs
ferrari f430 f1 3200lbs
nsx 3066-3153lbs
93+ supra 3450lbs

i guess what i am saying is 3000+lbs isnt going to make the car handle bad... infact adding 214lbs may help IF setup proper. my car does have tein ra suspension, and will have a 10 point chromoly cage to help stiffen the car up
when its all said and done i bet i wont even feel the added weight guess i will see!
all in all the car will never be raced for any other reason than fun... its a car i have wanted to build ever since seeing sp's supra 7... W/O there god awful hood! if i can find a dang wiring harness the car will be done sooooon...
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why do you need a harness? i thought you were using EMS
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why do you need a harness? i thought you were using EMS
using the aem ems supra box. the harness will make life easy
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nice!! well done. I have a 1jzgte that i having modding my 2nd gen for. cant wait to get it done!!
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is it for you rachdiddy
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Is that Roach's original car?
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....it's starting. Just picked up a Full-Race twin scroll kit w/GT4088R....
What's next?
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....it's starting. Just picked up a Full-Race twin scroll kit w/GT4088R....
What's next?
awwww ****!! INTERVENTION!?!? hahaha
there is no help for you... "now ull think more flow to the head... well then now the head flows good i dont want the rods and pistons to fail... so ill build the lower end also... better get some cam gears... oh wait ill have to feed the head with a intake manifold!"
good luck to you my friend!
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awwww ****!! INTERVENTION!?!? hahaha
there is no help for you... "now ull think more flow to the head... well then now the head flows good i dont want the rods and pistons to fail... so ill build the lower end also... better get some cam gears... oh wait ill have to feed the head with a intake manifold!"
good luck to you my friend!
already have HKS 264 and Unorthodox Cam Gears...lol

What parts do you have laying around?
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Why did you switch intake manifolds?
What exhaust manifold are you using?
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The 2jzswap/Tech2Moto (same company) subframe does not move the steering rack so no bumpsteer fix is needed. Engine would stick out of the stock hood however.
sorry to disappoint you buddy....

I was at the 2007 Las Vegas SEMA myself, had a booth there. I visited Tech 2 and checked out their 1JZ FD:



I noticed that they had installed a bumpsteer correction kit. So I approached the guy working for Tech 2, and asked "so you guys have lowered the steering rack huh?"
The guys said, "Nope! None whatsoever!"
So I asked him, "so why do you have a bumpsteer correction kit?"
I swear to god, the guys just mumbled something and just kindda wondered off. I had no idea what he said. I don't understand why they were trying to hide it... you guys can see and judge for yourself:


As if that's not clear enough, I took an undershot of the car, and took another picture of a stock FD, using a very similar perspective:


I think it's pretty darn clear the steering rack has been lowered. But for the life of me, my partner and I could not get the Tech2 representatives to admit it. It's dishonest, and I didn't like it.

Even on their website today, they claim they haven't lowered the steering rack. Well, it's really none of my business what they want to say. I bet that even if you show them these pictures, they'll just say something along the lines of "oh, that's because the SEMA car is a prototype, but the final product will be different." The fact is they've lied right to my face, so I wouldn't trust what they claim.

Just presenting the facts. You be the judge.

Howi

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wow some beautiful cars have been shown in this thread...
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Damn this is day by day leaning me twards LS1 and I really dont like or want to do LS1... only if there's a way to correct this bumb steer problem
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Why did you switch intake manifolds?
What exhaust manifold are you using?
to make more tq. we built a custom manifold from ross machine racing materials



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