you may be right? but when it comes RIGHT down to it, i dont care if it has a tiny bit of bump steer.
i have read may of your posts, and come to terms with the fact you are a very smart man.
would you be willing to put you driving your car up against me driving mine? both road race and drag race?? for either fun or money? because the only this i can find wrong with my build it the POSSIBILITY of bump steer.
friendly competition never hurt anyone did it?

 

Bro, no one here is hating on you. Infact you have done it so nicely that if i was in your country, i would had offered free man hours from my side. Its all about trial and error and eventually we go back home with some added experience.

Take it as constructive criticism, cause i have faced the very same problem when my FD took its first run after this swap was over. You want to keep the hood closed as it was on 13B but you are puposely ignoring the down side and the consequences that may follow.

You cant fabricate the motor, and you cant relocate the steering kit. Why would you think, the guys in Japan kept the 2JZ motor higher while swapping it for their Supra7? Even with extensive modification and fabrication all they were left was with a showcar.

 

You should, especially in a high horsepower car.

What's a "tiny bit" of bump steer, and what does it mean to handling at 60+ mph? Maybe that's the difference between us. I'd research something that could affect the safety of the car and not just leave it up to blind faith.

 

now your assuming i wouldnt take the precautions to make sure its"safe" i never once said id drive it if it were not safe. i said i dont care if the bumpsteer is present, as long as its safe. and no i wouldnt drive the car if it was switching lanes out of control.

 

roachdiddy u can't seem to win with this subject of your car. u have the jelous people and the people who think they can build the same car and do it the right way. i think your will be the one everyone is going to baser there's on except for the turbo size and a few other minor details. so don't let them put u down!

 

thanks... and trust me no one is going to get to me. i think they are all missing the point of this build! its mine! hahaha
and yes jimlab i could get 100% of the bump steer out if i wanted. custom sway bar, custom rack, dry sump oil pan, custom oil pan, etc. you get the idea there are far more ways to deal with this problem than just a simple bump steer kit (like i went)
and i know you are smarter than that jimlab. there is ALWAYS a way to fix things as long as you have the money to do so!

 

I think this is an awesome build project! The fabrication and execution appear to be top notch . Thanks for all the pics you posted in the beginning of this thread. Do you have any other pics of the motor mounts and/or crossmember before the engine was set in place? If you could post them up it would be greatly appreciated.
Congrats on building your dream, and don't let the skeptics and pessimists get you down. Please keep us posted as you progress

 

nothing ever goes ur way. hell of a build u got going man good luck. AND do they really have rx7s in pakistan?????

 

Bump steer by definition is not safe.

If you're OK with having your shop install a correction kit and just hoping it's "close enough", that's fine, but don't act like you know that the problem can be fixed when you don't even know how much of a problem you have in the first place. This is after you claimed your steering rack wasn't moved at all, remember...

 

I think you have a third grade education.

 

None of which have anything to do with suspension and steering geometry.

Sorry, but you're not going to impress me with all the "custom" work on your car or convince me that it means you know enough about the problem to "deal with it". If you moved the steering rack far enough, there is no way to just "deal with it" without changing your suspension geometry too.

Do yourself a favor and buy yourself a book on suspension design. I recommend Chassis Engineering by Herb Adams. Better yet, give it to the shop doing your work, because you don't seem to know much more about your car than where to sign on the credit card receipts.

 

jimlab sorry that your so cocky and seem to know everything about everything but man u need a hobby besides picky on people's projects

 

haha, ur right jumlab you are THE smartest man alive!! and no other car in the world outside of the rx7 has a good "safe" steering geometry. i have never claimed to be a wiz kid, but you are a fool to think there in so way it can be fixed.
im glad you can read books and state what you have read. im glad you built a k member that works (just like many other companies have) and i most of all ecstatic about how you care so much about my build!
do i have to know EVERYTHING about engineering to own this car? or could i enjoy my hobby and pay for my hobby?
you make me laugh jim, hard! but at the end of the night "after i signed all my credit car receipts" i still know ill always be that guy your afraid to let your girlfriend/wife hang around with. good day to you

 

This thread has aids. Stop arguing, start posting pics

 

Was the rack moved forward or back, up or down or a combination of two directions?

 

I'm definately not jealous. And as much as I hate to say it, I tend to agree with Jimlab here.

 

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just another person riding jimlabs dick!

 

Read up, pal. You might learn something.

I don't give two ***** about your build. I'd just like to see an honest answer about how far the steering rack was moved and what you're going to do about it. Obviously, you don't know, and equally obviously, you won't admit it.

I think that's quite possibly one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted in this forum, and with Barban roaming free, that's saying a lot.

 

Fixed.

 

Roachdiddy, just post exactyl how far the rack was moved and what was done to corect it this way this stupid **** can end. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Everybody else

 

it doesnt matter. just ask jim. if its moved it, just cant be fixed. the engineers that designed bump steer kits are fools and they dont work. i guess ill just have to drive around in a unsafe car that has bump steer!?! and it will never be able to be fixed!!
and just to clear up that whole thing you are stuck on jimlab... i didnt think the rack was moved. i was under the impression it hadnt been. but it was!

question: if an fd is lowered, then to have changed the geometry of the steering. right? because the angle of the arms have now changed? right? damn, tein, skunk2, apex, and all those suspension builders are all fools! who would have thought jimlab had all the answers? bump steer is just down right un-fixable!

 

Very simple ~ Take it to a skidpad and push it! Tweak what ever you can after each run until you get it some what comfortable.

 

bump steer kit will be here any day now. when it comes that is the plan

 

u fail....

u had the right attitude until u and jim started getting lippy with each other. just concentrate on ur build.

a word of advice, listen to kaisar1. he's been there, done that. so have i. and i can tell u that he's right. plus kaisar1 get's the point across without being an *** about it.

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