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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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good work - definitely would like to see more pics of the car and the setup finished.

ps: I thought the car had been painted black? why the silver dyno video?
Old Apr 5, 2008 | 02:55 AM
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if you read through everything you'll find out that the black (widebodied) car was his old car, he sold that shell and started over with this silver model...
Old Apr 5, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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if you read through everything you'll find out that the black (widebodied) car was his old car, he sold that shell and started over with this silver model...
this is correct...
i have around 30ish miles on the street now. car runs and drives like a monster. there is a bit of bump steer, but nothing that cant be fixed. cant wait to turn the boost up!
Old Apr 5, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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You won't be the only 2J'd FD around these parts for much longer, my good sir.

My project is already underway.

Old Apr 5, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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You won't be the only 2J'd FD around these parts for much longer, my good sir.

My project is already underway.

good luck to you man! i talk with 2 other guys on a diff forum that are doing this swap also
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 01:39 AM
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Yeah, I'm pretty excited.

I went ahead and ordered that kit off 2JZswap.com

They should have shipped on Friday, aong with the 1JZ bell-housing.

You figure they want to make a name for themselves by offering a solid product. They are willing to offer 110% support, and are even asking that my shop send pictures to them to show how progress is going, because I won't be there myself. The car's being put together at my brother's shop, Lethal Injection Motorsports out of Georgia, and I'm going to be stationed in San Diego.
I should be getting a 7M tranny soon. I'm still shopping for a motor though. No one in GA has any right now.

At least this way, next time I come home on leave...it should be done. :P

My shop will be welding me custom IC piping and a radiator with filler necks similar to yours. Top left and bottom right. I'd rather it cross over on the bottom.

I'm goin' 60-1 turbo w/ custom manifold, S-AFCII, Boost Cut Controller to start. At 14lbs, this should have me in the 400's. I'll be running dual Walboro 255's from the start, as well.

My "Step 2" setup is gonna involve upgrading the injectors, and the AEM EMS. That should have me closer to the 500ish range which is my goal.

I'm told the 60-1 has a faster spool than a 62-1, but doesn't have the same peak power, which is fine...for now. :P

I'd like to see some more pics/videos of yours, man.

Gotta represent!
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by YoshiFC3S
Yeah, I'm pretty excited.

I went ahead and ordered that kit off 2JZswap.com

They should have shipped on Friday, aong with the 1JZ bell-housing.

You figure they want to make a name for themselves by offering a solid product. They are willing to offer 110% support, and are even asking that my shop send pictures to them to show how progress is going, because I won't be there myself. The car's being put together at my brother's shop, Lethal Injection Motorsports out of Georgia, and I'm going to be stationed in San Diego.
I should be getting a 7M tranny soon. I'm still shopping for a motor though. No one in GA has any right now.

At least this way, next time I come home on leave...it should be done. :P

My shop will be welding me custom IC piping and a radiator with filler necks similar to yours. Top left and bottom right. I'd rather it cross over on the bottom.

I'm goin' 60-1 turbo w/ custom manifold, S-AFCII, Boost Cut Controller to start. At 14lbs, this should have me in the 400's. I'll be running dual Walboro 255's from the start, as well.

My "Step 2" setup is gonna involve upgrading the injectors, and the AEM EMS. That should have me closer to the 500ish range which is my goal.

I'm told the 60-1 has a faster spool than a 62-1, but doesn't have the same peak power, which is fine...for now. :P

I'd like to see some more pics/videos of yours, man.

Gotta represent!
if i were you (and im not) i would skip right over the afc and do the aem. that will save you a million migraines in the end.
sounds like a solid build!
my car made 550whp 387fttq at 14lbs of boost on e85
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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if i were you (and im not) i would skip right over the afc and do the aem. that will save you a million migraines in the end.
sounds like a solid build!
my car made 550whp 387fttq at 14lbs of boost on e85
My brother can dyno-tune the S-AFC II no problem, and for $200....

That's why I'm considering that my "Step 1" kinda setup.

The AEM EMS being like ~$1,200 and injectors being like $600..that's why that's gonna be my "Step 2".

So have you been drivin' ur car around town?
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by YoshiFC3S
My brother can dyno-tune the S-AFC II no problem, and for $200....

That's why I'm considering that my "Step 1" kinda setup.

The AEM EMS being like ~$1,200 and injectors being like $600..that's why that's gonna be my "Step 2".

So have you been drivin' ur car around town?
i see. and i understand you. gets expensive doing everything all at one time.
yes, we went out last night and smashed around town. good times! left a lot of rubber on the streets.
im second guessing the amount of power i need for the street driving. 550 is nuts, and just to think it will make 1000+whp! not sure thats going to go well on the roads?
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Here's how I want mine to look once I'm done.

Only difference being I think I wanna go with those Advan RGII rims. They're so freaking light weight, and I think a 5-spoke design looks much more agressive than a meshy design which looks more "clean" than "mean", ya know? :P Or even the Advan TC11's....mmmMmMz



For the life of me though, I'll never understand how someone can dirty up a tan interior so badly. My last FD was super clean on the inside with minimal black/dirt rub marks, ya know? My current project is all jacked up. >.<

I thought about just going full black interior, but for how much it'd cost to piece it all together...bah. I'd rather just replace what needs to be replaced, and get some comfy JIC suede seats. lol

I'm just gonna have it fixed up and re-sprayed on the outside once it's up and running. I'll start doing body work once the motor is where I want it, ya know? I'm already gonna "have" to pick up a Scoot Hood for clearance issues...not that I mind, though, it's my favorite hood.

I'm gonna start pricing everything up that I want cosmetically...

Motor-wise, I should have enough within the next couple weeks to go ahead and purchase the actual 2J, the 7M tranny, clutch/flywheel, and radiator, IC...

My goal is to have it up and running within the next 3-4 months. Whenever I can go on Leave again. :P

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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by roachdiddy
...im second guessing the amount of power i need for the street driving. 550 is nuts, and just to think it will make 1000+whp! not sure thats going to go well on the roads?
I bet that is one scary ride! Be careful. You probably will have to invest on MT ET street radials for some traction.
Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:03 AM
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hey yoshi, would you mind PMing me the price you were quoted from 2jzswap?

I've been looking at their stuff pretty intensly, especially since i have a 1jz with the 5spd tranny sitting here

Keep us posted on your build though!
Old Apr 8, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tecknix
hey yoshi, would you mind PMing me the price you were quoted from 2jzswap?

I've been looking at their stuff pretty intensly, especially since i have a 1jz with the 5spd tranny sitting here

Keep us posted on your build though!
The kit was $2,500...

http://tech2motorsports.com/tech-2-m.../i-177415.aspx

I also had them go ahead and ship me a 1JZ bell-housing.

The 7MGTE tranny out of a MKIII Turbo Supra has the same guts as the 1JZGTE transmission, with the only difference being the bell-housing.

With that also said, once I get my 7M tranny and the 1JZ bell-housing mated together, I can either go with a 2JZ or 1JZ clutch/flywheel setup. Supposedly.

I am getting kind of mixed responses on that, actually. Tech2 says use a 7M clutch with a 1J flywheel...but wtf is the sense in that if they're both R154 transmissions, and you've already swapped the bell-housing?

A 1J or 2J flywheel should bolt right up to the motor itself, and then a matching clutch should obviously work with.

My kit is supposed to arrive Friday at the shop, but I just arrived in San Diego a few hours ago, so I won't see any of the progress. I've asked my brother to take lots of pictures once it starts coming together.

The next step for me is to pick up a 2J. Probably an Aristo 2J, with the only difference being the cams, injectors, and turbos.

I'm stickin' with stock injectors till I go past 440hp, I'm goin' 60-1 turbo from day 1, and I'm gonna do Brian Crower cams.

I'll keep everyone posted on the progress.

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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by YoshiFC3S
A 1J or 2J flywheel should bolt right up to the motor itself, and then a matching clutch should obviously work with.
Im sorry, but with the 1JZ bellhousing, you have to use the 1JZ FLYWHEEL. The 2JZ FW is too large in diameter for the 1JZ BH.

But as for your clutch set up, you can use the 1JZ clutch kits or you can use the 7M-GTE clutch kits.
Old Apr 9, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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A 7m (r154) clutch is the same as a 1jz clutch (disc & pressure plate) you can only use a 1jz flywheel when using a r154 tranny. A 2jz flywheel will fit on the motor whether it be a 2j or 1jz (it has the same bolt circle pattern) but it has a different diameter making it impossible to work with the r154 tranny. You will also have to use 7m flywheel bolts on the 1jz flywheel. I have heard of people using 2jz non-turbo flywheel to mate with the r154 but I don't know how true it is. I would just use a 1jz flywheel.

1jz flywheel - r154 tranny

2jz flywheel- v160 tranny
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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can you use the getrag 6 speed with the 2JZswap.com on FD?
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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can you use the getrag 6 speed with the 2JZswap.com on FD?
im not sure but id say no. the getrag is longer
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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v160 are lot bigger too -
but you should be able to use a w58 from the sc300 or NA supra.
Although not as stout as the v160 or r154, they can still support up to around 400-450hp before breaking.

Yoshi, I would also give a call to the Marlin Crawler guy - they do a lot of r154 rebuilds. There's a weak part of the tranny that they can "make better"
Otherwise a complete bulletproof r154 build-up from them will cost you around $1200
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hey mate, wouldnt the huge 2jz really screw up the phenomonal handaling of the fd?
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So what if it does?, since when were cars with 2jz's known to "handle"?
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can you use the getrag 6 speed with the 2JZswap.com on FD?
The drive-shaft that comes with the kit won't work.

You would just have to modify it, or some other drive-shaft to be the right length. Not a big deal, but that damn getrag tranny is like ~$3,000. That would be like...LAST priority. lol

The 1JZ/7M R154 transmission is good for alot of power. I think I heard ~600+ish from my friend Turbo Dave who owns Mainstream Performance out of GA, and has EXTENSIVE 1J/2J knowledge. But I can't remember what he said. >.<

Current status, the kit itself arrived at the shop on Friday. I just flew my brother back home to GA, and he'll be at the shop tomorrow, and tell me what he thinks about the kit.

I'll keep you guys posted on everything to let you know what parts I end up using, etc.

I had TOLD Carlos at Tech2 to send the 1JZ bell-housing along with the kit, but they didn't. They ALSO charged me DOUBLE the amount of shipping they told me on the phone. I'm not down with being told one price on the phone, but charged another. Screw that. To Tech2's credit, after speaking with Christina over there, they are crediting me back the difference.

They're asking $375 + $40 shipping for the 1JZ bell-housing. I think I might go ahead and just try to find a complete 1JZ transmission locally. Versus the $425 for the 1JZ bell-housing shipped, and $300-400ish + shipping for the 7M tranny.

I'm waitin' on a bunch of money from the Navy right now, which I'll be using to purchase the complete transmission setup, and the motor. If I have enough, I'm also gonna go ahead and find my turbo and manifold, so I can have Turbo Dave go ahead and modify the manifold for better fitment in the engine bay. He's done a 1JZ in an FD before, and he's a great guy. He'll do any of the fabrication I need/want on anything from intake/turbo manifolds, intercooler piping, exhaust, etc. Great guy.
Old Apr 13, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by YoshiFC3S
The drive-shaft that comes with the kit won't work.

You would just have to modify it, or some other drive-shaft to be the right length. Not a big deal, but that damn getrag tranny is like ~$3,000. That would be like...LAST priority. lol

The 1JZ/7M R154 transmission is good for alot of power. I think I heard ~600+ish from my friend Turbo Dave who owns Mainstream Performance out of GA, and has EXTENSIVE 1J/2J knowledge. But I can't remember what he said. >.<

Current status, the kit itself arrived at the shop on Friday. I just flew my brother back home to GA, and he'll be at the shop tomorrow, and tell me what he thinks about the kit.

I'll keep you guys posted on everything to let you know what parts I end up using, etc.

I had TOLD Carlos at Tech2 to send the 1JZ bell-housing along with the kit, but they didn't. They ALSO charged me DOUBLE the amount of shipping they told me on the phone. I'm not down with being told one price on the phone, but charged another. Screw that. To Tech2's credit, after speaking with Christina over there, they are crediting me back the difference.

They're asking $375 + $40 shipping for the 1JZ bell-housing. I think I might go ahead and just try to find a complete 1JZ transmission locally. Versus the $425 for the 1JZ bell-housing shipped, and $300-400ish + shipping for the 7M tranny.

I'm waitin' on a bunch of money from the Navy right now, which I'll be using to purchase the complete transmission setup, and the motor. If I have enough, I'm also gonna go ahead and find my turbo and manifold, so I can have Turbo Dave go ahead and modify the manifold for better fitment in the engine bay. He's done a 1JZ in an FD before, and he's a great guy. He'll do any of the fabrication I need/want on anything from intake/turbo manifolds, intercooler piping, exhaust, etc. Great guy.
My question is not about the money its about whether or not the getrag will fit? So are you possibly implying that it can fit?
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looks like a decent kit. We made the getrag fit, but ours was custom, not boughten. Not sure on their kit, but it can fit without modifying the shifter if done right.
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Also, if that is the complete kit in the picture, then Im assuming they dont plan on running the V160 getrag. Wrong joints on the driveshaft.
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^Thats awesome! Did you guys use the stock differential or were you able to use the Supra TT differential?



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