Tyrael6666

All I have to say is R20B Renesis. If the racing model of the Renesis 20B (yes its naturally aspirated) can make over 600 horsepower, why not make a downtuned one to meet emissiosn requirements, and start dropping them into a new Rx7. I dont think 350 to 400 horsepower would be too farfetched, seeing as it had the potential for over 600 while still N/A.
Just a thought.

13b4me

I say leave the RX-7 alone... It has a beautiful legacy that will be ruined if they make another... If they decide to continue numerically and make an RX-9 or 2G RX-8 that's fine, but to go back to a name they've already surpassed would be kinda reaching for something that will never be found again... The RX-7 is a legend, and anything else added to the legend will only discount the original concept behind it...

If they were to make another rotary vehicle though, I would want them to get back to basics with an updated FB style... Lightweight, strippy, and a pure sports car...

GUITARJUNKIE28

don't see why a "new" rx7 couldn't be built from an rx8 platform, turbo'd or sc'd, and sold for less than $35k. add a bit of power, drop some weight, firm up the already great suspension, make it look like a fish spaceship, and you've got a winner.

i've heard the rumors of a larger displacement 2-rotor but i don't know the validity of them. 1.5 or 1.6L engine, 4-port configuration so it doesn't have to spin 8k to make power, drop the compression ratio, a bit of boost, and an easy 300hp car on a very reliable and conservative tune.

13b4me

Werd... And we would still be the reigning champions of the hp/litre war!

Naegleria_Fowleri

My hopes would be to make it expensive and hardcore sports car that the fd was. I think having a higher price tag would detour ricers from buying it, just make sure it has the ***** to back up the price. Don't put out a 45k dollar sports car that can't compete with the things in its class (Porsche 911's, Corvettes, etc. etc.) and I would go even as far as to say it should be able to compete with 911 Turbos and Z06's for that price. Sure its not even close to their prices, but think of the legacies those two cars have over the Rx7. The rx8 is already out for rotary enthusiasts. I want them to make a rotary powered sports car that has outstanding performance values like the Z06 and the 911 Turbo.

I also realize that this is far from likely, and thus I don't think it should be done. Carry on the Rx8. They make a cheap rotary powered car and half of them are going to be riced out, not taken care of, and then give the rotary engine an even worse reputation.

13b4me

Yea that's what I think too... And calling it the RX-7 will also likely attract the same exact ricers to our current generations of RX-7... Bad news...

neofreak

Wait.. that has already happened. If it gets any worse I'm selling mine.

Buzzardsluck

I totally agree. I don't understand why so many want the RX7 name on it. The RX7s were a fantastic line of cars but they are done now, move on. The RX9 name plate would look just fine.

Also I would stick with one power version, like the FD. If your putting out a badass car no point in spending time on two different power versions. Put everything into the making the best you can(like the FD).

At this point I think a 3 rotor would be the only way to go but it will not happen for a lot of reasons .

FuseKazuki

45k is a lil over the top.... 35 maybe

but definitely single turbo for me, keeping the base RX7 FD3S look (maybe a slightly more aggressive front), woudlnt mind paying a little more for better parts

FuseKazuki

BTW where did the 'fact" about mazda having a new rx7 on the drawing board come from?

GUITARJUNKIE28

rx whatever...

i think it'd be great if they did another rotary powered, lightweight 2-seater with good power.

hell, toss a renesis in a miata and call it an rx-m and it'd be fine with me.

lnbrown5981

I thought that was what the rx-8 was for?

d0 Luck

I like this one since he's not speaking out of his *** nor letting his emotions drive him. Common sense > emotions.

Now that's a true consumer point of view.

On my own note, I personally don't think they should bring back the rotary in any form more than the RX-8.

Sure the rotary has it's great points and unique, but I sure as hell wouldn't pay that price of spending $$$ on the pump just to say I drive a slow rotary RX-8, but hey at least it can rev to 9k RPMs.

No matter what, the 3 faced rotor design will forever have a poor flame front and a higher BSFC in comparison w/ its counterpart, the piston motor. Direct fuel injection won't save the rotary here either.

There's a reason why all other automobile companies do not mass produce nor even privately produce rotary designed engines. The purists point of view won't save anyone here. What Mazda wants to hear is not your emotions, but your willingness to spend the $$$ when the car does come out. It's easy for you to say now, but when it comes out, I doubt most of you will actually buy the car due to its pricing and relative outside price range for the younger buyer. Let's be reaslitic here. $45,000 ain't no chump change, even for me.

My final conclusion is that Mazda should re-design from the FD3S chassis and stuff the Mazda6 Mazdaspeed motor in it. 2.3 + turbo; I'll take that any day than a rotary. But hey, that's just me.

GloryDays

zOMG!!! teh rotary cant lose!!??

KeloidJonesJr.

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NOOOOOOOOOOO not going to happen...

SystemIDx

iTrader: (2)

That concept RX-7 looks like trash. In my opinion, the need to put a 20B in an FD chassis and call it the new RX-7, and have an optional single turbo as a 'sport' option.

no_name

I think they should bring back something like the gen 1 Rx-7. Update the body style/ change a few lines, to modernize the design a little, but still give it that classy elegant look.

Make the car out of modern LIGHTER & STRONGER alloys ( perhapse entirely out of alluminum). Upgrade the suspension, have normal steering. Maybe ditch teh solid rear axel for IRS ( or maybe not solid axels are tougher). And use a 12a sized Renisis.

The result would be a realativly cheap car, with good stock performance, and wicked stock handling. It would probably be around 1900lbs with about 170-180hp at 9 000rpm or something like this. It will yeild a 0-100kmh time of 5.2 seconds.

But the main focus should be handling, and afordability.

I know I would kill for an all new, gen 1 armed with a 12a Renisis, espetialy if it was made of lighter, stronger aloys.

my $.02

GUITARJUNKIE28

yea, then they can have a 13 year old chassis design with an unreliable engine, charge too much for it, only sell it to 5 people who both like and can afford something like that, let it blow up, and go out of business from the endless warranty claims. oh yea, and not import it to the states due to smog regs. it'll never happen dood.

i'd really love for them to just do a rotary option in the miata and see how that sells. it'd cost them next to nothing, all the parts are off-the-shelf, and it'd be a perfect way to see how the public would respond to a lightweight rotary again. if that takes off, they can build another car.

but what i'd REALLY like is for a mazda engineer to post up and let us know what's going on. yea...that'll happen

fc_dorifto

No more Rx-7 ... Mazda should call it the Rx-9, marketing wise (mass people would think the rx-8 is better because number 8 is above number 9) and rx-7 enthousiast wise (Mazda couln't make a new Rx-7 that still pollutes like it does, that got pop up lights, that's not comfortable, ...)

Also the Rx-9 should have a new desing:

- body style based on the Rx-8, but more agressive, and aluminium
- base luxury (it's not a Lexus, it's a Mazda)
- light weight 2 seater (2800 lbs and down)
- RWD, not the AWD trend
- a 3 rotor renesis NON TURBO (reliability and emission wise). High compression, peripheral exhaust ports, ITBs, ...
- agressive suspension (like the Rx-7, sportier than the Rx-8)
- price range around 35 K$ to 40 K$

This should make a great sport car ! Way better than the 350Z, Skylines, ....

RX7UP

I'd say $48,000+ Power everything!...

GUITARJUNKIE28

what part of production vehicle don't you understand?

there will never be another peripheral exhaust port production engine for street use ever again. get that in your head right now. NEVER EVER AGAIN.

3 rotors are too expensive
itb's on a mass-produced car? you bumped your head.

why don't you go out and say you want mazda to build a race car and sell it to you. if you want a race car, build a race car. you're not thinking marketing here.

fc_dorifto

Why ? Could you explain ? I think Mazda did the exhaust ports like this on the renesis for fuel economy but there is a little drop in power .... but I could be wrong !



Well, some sports car got ITBs, like the BMW M3 ! Also, the Sr20 version found in the Pulsar Gti-R got ITBs, or the RB26, .... and they are all mass-produced car, no ?

I think Mazda could do something great with a 3-rotor engine, while keeping it "user friendly" for every one and beeing into smog regulations ...

FuseKazuki

the m3 is also 60 grand, a 3 rotor would put a new rx7 in between a m3 and a m5 price wise