1974 13b-re Nova
06-09-08, 06:43 PM
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For anyone who doubts you can get a Nova down to that weight, consider that stock, as delivered to the dealer with all accessories, etc. a couple of configurations were under 3300lbs.
http://novaresource.org/weights.htm#1974
http://novaresource.org/weights.htm#1974
06-09-08, 06:58 PM
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Cool proyect keep up the great work and show us more pictures and for all u idiots that don't like it don't look at it.Very simple to do.
My next Proyect will be a lawn more engine in a 69 Yenko Camaro.
My next Proyect will be a lawn more engine in a 69 Yenko Camaro.
06-09-08, 10:32 PM
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I can't believe there are idiots saying the Nova is big, heavy and is a straight line car only. Body dimensions might be pretty difficult to change, but if these clowns would have paid attention they'd have read the"under 2700lbs" quoted by the builder. And you can make ANYTHING handle with the right suspension upgrades.
No talent or imagination to this project? Seriously - the guy learned how to TIG weld so he could build a ******* manifold. What's the percentage of people on this board that can TIG weld? 3-5% or so? And the percentage of the people making negative comments about this project? Somewhere around 0% I'm guessing?
To the OP:
Don't worry about the assclowns saying anything negative about your car. You know how you can pull into a parking lot full of nice hot rods, and there's always some douchebag there with a few primered panels, missing a bumper and one of his windows, milk crates for seats, and oil smoke rolling out from under the car? Yea.. that's these *******.
Good luck with your project, and when you're done, I'd love to take a ride in it.
No talent or imagination to this project? Seriously - the guy learned how to TIG weld so he could build a ******* manifold. What's the percentage of people on this board that can TIG weld? 3-5% or so? And the percentage of the people making negative comments about this project? Somewhere around 0% I'm guessing?
To the OP:
Don't worry about the assclowns saying anything negative about your car. You know how you can pull into a parking lot full of nice hot rods, and there's always some douchebag there with a few primered panels, missing a bumper and one of his windows, milk crates for seats, and oil smoke rolling out from under the car? Yea.. that's these *******.
Good luck with your project, and when you're done, I'd love to take a ride in it.
A little history might shed some light on why I'd want to put a rotary in a Nova. In the past 10 years my brother, father, and I have build/owned the following....
1969 Corvette (427cid and 6-pack)
2008 Corvette Z06 (Stock)
1985 Pro Street Chevy C10 (509cid w/8-71 blower)
1998 Dodge Ram (408 w/Novi 2000 Supercharger *607 whp*)
2005 RX8 (Stock)
2006 SRT-4 (~350 whp)
1995 Eclipse GSX (50 trim & FMIC)
We've done the rediculous horsepower thing.
We've done the luxury sports car thing.
We've done the import thing.
We've done the muscle car thing.
Of all of the cars, the most fun to cruise around town is by far the '69 corvette. You just can't find a better looking car than classic muscle. But, wrapping the engine in the RX8 to 9,000 rpm is an awesome feeling. Big blocks and ridiculous horsepower seemed kind of played out, and weren't any fun any more (The '85 went through four different configurations). So, it was time to combine the favorites......the muscle car styling with a revolutionary engine design well of the beaten path. Viola.....nova with a rotary.
I can't wait to see the looks (good and bad) it'll get once it's up and running!
06-09-08, 10:41 PM
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as i have said if you look at my original post.....
i gave the guy credit for his work. i just think that the awap isnt right. im entitled to my opinion.
as for not being able to do my own work and such.....i do everything to my own car. there has not been anything that has been done that i havent ultimately been able to do myself. granted there may have been some help along the way......but thats learning.
and as i said i grew up working on muscle cars....they are nothing foreign to me.
as you are entitled to your opinion about this build so am i . i give props for the effort and work but i dont like the swap sorry.
as for not being able to do my own work and such.....i do everything to my own car. there has not been anything that has been done that i havent ultimately been able to do myself. granted there may have been some help along the way......but thats learning.
and as i said i grew up working on muscle cars....they are nothing foreign to me.
as you are entitled to your opinion about this build so am i . i give props for the effort and work but i dont like the swap sorry.
06-10-08, 06:37 AM
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I can't believe there are idiots saying the Nova is big, heavy and is a straight line car only. Body dimensions might be pretty difficult to change, but if these clowns would have paid attention they'd have read the"under 2700lbs" quoted by the builder. And you can make ANYTHING handle with the right suspension upgrades.
No talent or imagination to this project? Seriously - the guy learned how to TIG weld so he could build a ******* manifold. What's the percentage of people on this board that can TIG weld? 3-5% or so? And the percentage of the people making negative comments about this project? Somewhere around 0% I'm guessing?
To the OP:
Don't worry about the assclowns saying anything negative about your car. You know how you can pull into a parking lot full of nice hot rods, and there's always some douchebag there with a few primered panels, missing a bumper and one of his windows, milk crates for seats, and oil smoke rolling out from under the car? Yea.. that's these *******.
Good luck with your project, and when you're done, I'd love to take a ride in it.
No talent or imagination to this project? Seriously - the guy learned how to TIG weld so he could build a ******* manifold. What's the percentage of people on this board that can TIG weld? 3-5% or so? And the percentage of the people making negative comments about this project? Somewhere around 0% I'm guessing?
To the OP:
Don't worry about the assclowns saying anything negative about your car. You know how you can pull into a parking lot full of nice hot rods, and there's always some douchebag there with a few primered panels, missing a bumper and one of his windows, milk crates for seats, and oil smoke rolling out from under the car? Yea.. that's these *******.
Good luck with your project, and when you're done, I'd love to take a ride in it.
I think this swap is cool I just thinks its funny how they are so into a rotory in any car and so against a different motor in their cars. Hell I would have a rotory powerd car is if came with is own rotory mechanic to keep it running for me casue I have no interest in it. My LS1 powerd car is 400+hp to the wheels and I dont have to worry about it ever. That would be a different story if it were a boosted rotory
06-10-08, 09:52 AM
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**** all that hog wash stay on point with this guys thread and stop thrashing it...if you don't like the fact that he threw a rotary into a v8 then don't post up in here...give the guy credit for the beautiful work he is doing if anything else...Damn!!!
Anyways man i just wanted to say it has been a while since i have been able to catch up on this thread and i just wanted to say that turbo mani is "PURE ******* PRONO!!!" good stuff bro can't wait to see whats next on her...
Anyways man i just wanted to say it has been a while since i have been able to catch up on this thread and i just wanted to say that turbo mani is "PURE ******* PRONO!!!" good stuff bro can't wait to see whats next on her...
06-10-08, 06:15 PM
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Man you r the next specialist on rotary power muscle cars conversions.
Keep up the great work and can wait to see it running you better post a video on you tube or street fire.
Keep up the great work and can wait to see it running you better post a video on you tube or street fire.
06-12-08, 09:46 PM
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Here is a sample of the paint colors. It's chrome orange with diamond white pearl SS stripes. Much prettier in person. The square is an actual sprayed sample, the Exige is the car the color comes from, and the nova gives a feel for the overall scheme. (The Exige looks a little different color, but it's just the effect of the camera and the pearl).
07-25-08, 07:37 PM
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cool project... but i have a couple questions
first one is the lower radiator hose looks like it will run right into the front primary tube or is it an optical illusion?
next question is... how much did the TB cost to bore out... and why not just run the 20b T/B since it is a larger bore the the 13bre and probably cheaper then RC
first one is the lower radiator hose looks like it will run right into the front primary tube or is it an optical illusion?
next question is... how much did the TB cost to bore out... and why not just run the 20b T/B since it is a larger bore the the 13bre and probably cheaper then RC
07-26-08, 03:25 PM
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I'm a little embarrassed to say, but around $400 to bore the throttle body. It's a lot of yack for very little gain, but I'm the kind of person that if I didn't do it now, it'd eat at me and I'd just end up doing it later.
07-26-08, 03:38 PM
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Went to Lockney Texas to meet with the painter. Things seem to be going well, just a little slower than I'd like. Looking at Sept-Oct timeframe to get it back.
Couple more pics of the state of things. I think I'm almost peaked until I get the car back.
Couple more pics of the state of things. I think I'm almost peaked until I get the car back.
08-12-08, 04:09 PM
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I really enjoy reeding this and knowing that the V8 lovers get pissed off!!!
I dont get why anybody in his right mind would put a v8 in a gen3 or any RX for that matter!
This is payback!!!!!!!
P.S. I have to say that you are really doing a stunning job and that this would be a perfect example for anybody thinking of doing something properly!!!!
I dont get why anybody in his right mind would put a v8 in a gen3 or any RX for that matter!
This is payback!!!!!!!
P.S. I have to say that you are really doing a stunning job and that this would be a perfect example for anybody thinking of doing something properly!!!!
08-12-08, 04:39 PM
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as i have said if you look at my original post.....
i gave the guy credit for his work. i just think that the awap isnt right. im entitled to my opinion.
as for not being able to do my own work and such.....i do everything to my own car. there has not been anything that has been done that i havent ultimately been able to do myself. granted there may have been some help along the way......but thats learning.
and as i said i grew up working on muscle cars....they are nothing foreign to me.
as you are entitled to your opinion about this build so am i . i give props for the effort and work but i dont like the swap sorry.
i gave the guy credit for his work. i just think that the awap isnt right. im entitled to my opinion.
as for not being able to do my own work and such.....i do everything to my own car. there has not been anything that has been done that i havent ultimately been able to do myself. granted there may have been some help along the way......but thats learning.
and as i said i grew up working on muscle cars....they are nothing foreign to me.
as you are entitled to your opinion about this build so am i . i give props for the effort and work but i dont like the swap sorry.
I am one of those guys who love to pride myself in doing things myself and doing them well!
But this guy went to another level in doing it himself and frankly I would pay money to see anybody doing a better job!
Making horsepower with a V8 is almost `off the shelf` and anybody with a bit of money can buy a big block with 500+ hp!
Rotary is probably not the best there is or the fastest or the most powerful but it sure as hell is something spectacular in many ways!
If you realy love the v8 that much than why the hell are you poking around on here? I`m very sure there are more than enough Novas about with nice V8s in and poeple that would agree with you!
This is probably the only one of its kind in the world and as you have seen he has had a few boingers in his life so I would be inclined to say that he has a pretty good idea of he likes!
O, and for the `straight line car` comment: have you noticed the double wishbone front suspension?!?! Waisting that money and time on a car for drags doesn't make much sense now does it?!?!
So, yes, you are very much entitled to your opinion! Only thing is, people on this blog dont care about V8s, if we did, why the hell would we be here in the first place!!
Love and kisses.....
08-12-08, 09:45 PM
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Oldshoolbaby, I appreciate the kind words. That's a pretty good explation of my thoughts on the subject. But....if some people didn't dislike the idea, it wouldn't be having the effect I'm shooting for. To some people, a rotary is their background. It's not mine. That's what makes it so cool to me. It's new and exciting. To some people, a supercharged big block isn't their background so its new and exciting to them. Some people haven't ever had a 1000+ hp car, so the mentality is "why not go big block, make some real power, and go rediculously fast?" Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Others are purists and don't believe in "butchering" a car like this. I don't share the opinion, but it's fine too. Cool is different for everyone. Both the positive and negative comments are appreciated so keep them coming!
08-12-08, 10:21 PM
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Oh yeah.......and a triangulated 4-link in the rear. It also has coilovers all the way around. The center of gravity should be considerably lower too. The stance is much lower, and a lot of weight came off of the top of the car due to the fiberglass hood, hatch, and lexan. The engine sits extrememly low and back in the engine bay compared to a V8. The radiator has also been moved back about 6", and the battery is mounted further back. The weight distribution and handling won't be near as good as an FD, but it definitely won't be a yacht. Hopefully the 315 drag radials will help out the lighter rear end balance.
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