View Poll Results: Blue's Destiny
Keep Blue Supercharged
22
68.75%
Make Blue Turbocharged
10
31.25%
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BLUE's destiny
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Joined: Jun 2002
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From: Plano, TX
Originally Posted by stilettoman
The fact is that any conversion or major modification like this is a seemingly endless process of solving engineering problems, whether you are an engineer or not. Some of us just like to tinker and enjoy the challenge of solving interesting problems. Even the manufacturers do a lot of trial an error, and if you read about these specialty cars in the mags, a lot of manufacturers have cars developed by experienced hot rodders because they end up with a better product.
Doing an engine swap involves solving a lot of problems, but they are mostly pretty straightforward and don't involve a lot of rocket science, just time and fabrication skills. But a major engine mod like Blue is doing is much more difficult, and the outcome is less certain. When the results are not what you expect, there is always that constant question of whether you have done something wrong or the components are defective. This is expecially true with the electronic bits. My Ford V8 swap would certainly have better economy and driveablility with fuel injection, but that is completely outside my expertise, so I used a carb.
Regarding the comment about "adding 400 pounds with a V8 swap" that is a good estimate for a big block with iron heads. My Ford 302 has aluminum heads, intake, water pump and radiator. With no AC or power steering, but with electric windows, a sunroof and complete stock interior, my 84 GSL weighs exactly 2550 fully serviced, without fuel. That includes a Ford AOD trans which weighs 175 pounds with torque converter. These weights measured using a very accurate set of electronic scales. If I had used a 5 speed manual, the car would be about 100 pounds lighter, but I thought I needed both hands on the steering wheel! I did add a few pounds with my 2nd gen brake conversion because of the big discs.
So how much does your car weigh with the supercharger installation?
Doing an engine swap involves solving a lot of problems, but they are mostly pretty straightforward and don't involve a lot of rocket science, just time and fabrication skills. But a major engine mod like Blue is doing is much more difficult, and the outcome is less certain. When the results are not what you expect, there is always that constant question of whether you have done something wrong or the components are defective. This is expecially true with the electronic bits. My Ford V8 swap would certainly have better economy and driveablility with fuel injection, but that is completely outside my expertise, so I used a carb.
Regarding the comment about "adding 400 pounds with a V8 swap" that is a good estimate for a big block with iron heads. My Ford 302 has aluminum heads, intake, water pump and radiator. With no AC or power steering, but with electric windows, a sunroof and complete stock interior, my 84 GSL weighs exactly 2550 fully serviced, without fuel. That includes a Ford AOD trans which weighs 175 pounds with torque converter. These weights measured using a very accurate set of electronic scales. If I had used a 5 speed manual, the car would be about 100 pounds lighter, but I thought I needed both hands on the steering wheel! I did add a few pounds with my 2nd gen brake conversion because of the big discs.
So how much does your car weigh with the supercharger installation?
ill say this i like turbos,
but after hearing the sheer sounds of blues' supercharger and exhaust note battling it out on the dyno, it sounded like a a synfony , a work of moatsart sp?
the sound was amazing, i cant describe it. i loved it tho
but after hearing the sheer sounds of blues' supercharger and exhaust note battling it out on the dyno, it sounded like a a synfony , a work of moatsart sp?
the sound was amazing, i cant describe it. i loved it tho
Joined: Dec 2001
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From: NY, MA, MI, OR, TX, and now LA or AZ!
Originally Posted by CODE BLUE 2
Smile, I should have known you would find this thread. LoL I do value your opinion. I sort of would like to stay Supercharged. So I see my options to be.
1. Change Superchargers or deal with what I have since Camden has given up on my car.
2. Go Turbo
I have met someone in Idaho that is very good with these cars, and modding them. I will talk to him about other options that you suggest. This is my last attempt with this. I can’t really drive the car in the winter here, so if any changes it will be this winter.
1. Change Superchargers or deal with what I have since Camden has given up on my car.
2. Go Turbo
I have met someone in Idaho that is very good with these cars, and modding them. I will talk to him about other options that you suggest. This is my last attempt with this. I can’t really drive the car in the winter here, so if any changes it will be this winter.
