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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 10:14 AM
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ID Won't go into gear while started?

So I've replaced the master and slave cylinders but it still won't go into gear while the car is on. Could it be my clutch?

now non of my mechanics know anything about rotarys and i'm still learning how but this is really stumping me hard.
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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has nothing to do with it being rotary. could be clutch/pressure plate assembly, release bearing or pilot bearing.with clutch pedal held down, put it in gear then start it and see what happens.
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 10:32 AM
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has nothing to do with it being rotary. could be clutch/pressure plate assembly, release bearing or pilot bearing.with clutch pedal held down, put it in gear then start it and see what happens.
I have actually tried that and it only starts moving forward while stalling out.
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 12:54 PM
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ok I will give that a try at somepoint but it probably won't be till monday I can do it. see what happens.
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Have you bled your clutch system properly make sure all air is out . If you open the bleeder 1/4 turn it should almost gravity bleed it;s self making sure you don't run the reservoir to low ( keep it topped up ) or it is a never ending job . Basically all hydraulic clutches work the same so if a mechanic says it's a rotary and don't know about the clutch . I'm betting they don't know the difference between **** and blue clay . Gerald m.
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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Have you bled your clutch system properly make sure all air is out . If you open the bleeder 1/4 turn it should almost gravity bleed it;s self making sure you don't run the reservoir to low ( keep it topped up ) or it is a never ending job . Basically all hydraulic clutches work the same so if a mechanic says it's a rotary and don't know about the clutch . I'm betting they don't know the difference between **** and blue clay . Gerald m.
yup Bled all the way no air in it but still it could be that the pressure plate is stuck and what not this car has sat around for 6 years untill I came along and bought it.

it was not a bad investment the engine is a new 13b engine non turbo so it's gonna have it's prob

but I have done all the things need after the master and slave but now i'm not sure xD
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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There must be an inspection plate either on the top at rear of engine or underneath around flywheel area . get someone to push pedal a few times while you watch the action of the clutch .to see if it moves freely or not . if no go then I suggest you remove the trans a bit and find out what the problem is before you do damage to something else . it is possible that the clutch is stuck to the pressure plate . maybe take a few pictures or a short movie and upload it so we can see what is happening . Gerald m.
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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pilot bearing has most likely fried and stuck the transmission input shaft to the Engine's "eccentric shaft"( Crank.)
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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THX GUYS i WILL UPDATE LATER WHEN i HAVE TIME AGAIN TO WORK ON MY CAR. RIGHT NOW I HAVE WORK FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK. xD

sorry caps lock was on xD
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Is most likely your clutch good luck with it though
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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We can speculate until Lindsay Lohan sobers up, but it won't do you much good. If you're convinced it's not in the hydraulics...which is easy enough to check, it's time to pull the transmission. Many things have been suggested, I'll do one more...a failed clutch fork.
As mentioned previously, there's nothing different about the car aft of the flywheel from any other car. Any competent shop should be able to deal with it.

And it might help in future questions/posts if you put the year and model of your car in your signature. That way we don't have to wonder or go to your profile to find out.
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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I just had this problem in my car the clutch disc had actually separated from the center of the clutch with the springs there for it was always Engaged.
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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My bet is clutch fork or the pilot bearing seized. I have never broken a fork but did have the stock needle pilot bearing lock the engine/trans together TWICE. The second time i replaced it with an oilite bronze bushing and have not had a problem since. Good luck.
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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I had this problem when I shattered a synchro ring on my 93. When I took apart the transmission I found chucks of the synchro in the other gears including the reverse hub, needless to say I had to rebuild the tranny because there was quite a bit of wear on the other gears after that.
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgtblue
We can speculate until Lindsay Lohan sobers up, but it won't do you much good. If you're convinced it's not in the hydraulics...which is easy enough to check, it's time to pull the transmission. Many things have been suggested, I'll do one more...a failed clutch fork.
As mentioned previously, there's nothing different about the car aft of the flywheel from any other car. Any competent shop should be able to deal with it.

And it might help in future questions/posts if you put the year and model of your car in your signature. That way we don't have to wonder or go to your profile to find out.
Lindsay didn't sober up yet,She Swatted another chick..I honestly don't see anything in that girl.I have seen Crack addicts with better talent..Believe me..

How about ya PlentyMoon..ya wake up and smell the gear oil yet?..(Haha!)
Update ..?..
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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^Yeah, saw that. What a train wreck. Sad really.
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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I hope you can figure this out. I'm having the same issue. Hopefully it's something simple I don't really want to pay a shop to pull my tranny.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Basically, if it's not a hydraulics issue, ie master or slave cylinders or the line, then the transmission will need to come out to find the problem. Good luck
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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I had this problem on my na turned out it was the pilot\throw out bearings ...
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 04:06 AM
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Update: after a long wait I fixed the car found out that my whole clutch was blown had to replace more stuff put in a new clutch and Shifter so I won't scratch my car when shifting since the stock shifter was to loose and would grind if not shifted correctly.

I put in a Short Shifter since I like to race it now and again down the street xD but yeah my car is running at some point I will try to post up a walk around of my car it's basicly in mint condition for an 88 everything was all stock when I bought this car!~
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by plentymoon
Update: after a long wait I fixed the car found out that my whole clutch was blown had to replace more stuff put in a new clutch and Shifter so I won't scratch my car when shifting since the stock shifter was to loose and would grind if not shifted correctly.

I put in a Short Shifter since I like to race it now and again down the street xD but yeah my car is running at some point I will try to post up a walk around of my car it's basicly in mint condition for an 88 everything was all stock when I bought this car!~

Glad you found the problem!
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Seeee just like mine!!! glad it was not anything major
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