Pre mixing
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The engine uses an oil metering system that takes oil from the oil pan and injects "a minute amount" into the Housings(internals) so the engine's apex seals are lubricated.Otherwise your engine would stop.It needs lubrication somehow.
Now,If you delete this OMP system then you Need topremix 2 stroke oil with your gas,so every time the internals get fuel that oil/gas mix is lubricating the internals of the engine.
Your basic rule of thumb is 1oz 2 stroke per gallon of gas.
IF you do not have an working OMP system and you do not Premix,then the engine is just going to eat itself up due to friction.
Can you say Rebuild?...come on..R-E..bbbbbeautiful..(you get it..good job!)
That my friend is Premixing and why the OMP system is there.
Now,If you delete this OMP system then you Need topremix 2 stroke oil with your gas,so every time the internals get fuel that oil/gas mix is lubricating the internals of the engine.
Your basic rule of thumb is 1oz 2 stroke per gallon of gas.
IF you do not have an working OMP system and you do not Premix,then the engine is just going to eat itself up due to friction.
Can you say Rebuild?...come on..R-E..bbbbbeautiful..(you get it..good job!)
That my friend is Premixing and why the OMP system is there.
The engine uses an oil metering system that takes oil from the oil pan and injects "a minute amount" into the Housings(internals) so the engine's apex seals are lubricated.Otherwise your engine would stop.It needs lubrication somehow.
Now,If you delete this OMP system then you Need topremix 2 stroke oil with your gas,so every time the internals get fuel that oil/gas mix is lubricating the internals of the engine.
Your basic rule of thumb is 1oz 2 stroke per gallon of gas.
IF you do not have an working OMP system and you do not Premix,then the engine is just going to eat itself up due to friction.
Can you say Rebuild?...come on..R-E..bbbbbeautiful..(you get it..good job!)
That my friend is Premixing and why the OMP system is there.
Now,If you delete this OMP system then you Need topremix 2 stroke oil with your gas,so every time the internals get fuel that oil/gas mix is lubricating the internals of the engine.
Your basic rule of thumb is 1oz 2 stroke per gallon of gas.
IF you do not have an working OMP system and you do not Premix,then the engine is just going to eat itself up due to friction.
Can you say Rebuild?...come on..R-E..bbbbbeautiful..(you get it..good job!)
That my friend is Premixing and why the OMP system is there.
Best thing is to figure out exactly how much gas you're putting in and add the 2 stroke before filling up. This way it mixes in the tank. Just remember 1 ounce per gallon or it will smoke like a weed eater hahaha
Pre-mixing seems to be a real Bone of Contention. Some Rotary experts will tell you to definitely always do it. Others say "Bah Humbug, as long as your not racing the car and your Oil Metering System is working fine, you're throwing your money away".
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From: Smiths Falls.(near Ottawa!.Mapquest IT!)
You can spend a shitload of extra money on High name oils.frankly just not worth it.
..and "this guy"(myself) would rather have Full coverage of lube than a small spray through a hole in the housing..(you ever see the Trail of oil in a housing after tear down you will know what I mean).
The OP has a FD. Doing that would destroy the OMP and put the ECU/engine into limp mode. Not sure who or what a "rotar dde" is, but doing that even on a FB doesn't sound really smart. And who wants a car belching smoke unnecessarily?
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From: Smiths Falls.(near Ottawa!.Mapquest IT!)
"rotar dde" Is a rotor DUDE..most likely,along with his attempt at spelling (m)etering pump.
Which honestly didn't fair out for him since he was BANNED for Not following rules,so his post is deleted too Jim..
Some guys like to test the rules.Sorry,No soup.
Here's to Premix!
Which honestly didn't fair out for him since he was BANNED for Not following rules,so his post is deleted too Jim..
Some guys like to test the rules.Sorry,No soup.
Here's to Premix!
just get TCw3 and be done with it.
You can spend a shitload of extra money on High name oils.frankly just not worth it.
..and "this guy"(myself) would rather have Full coverage of lube than a small spray through a hole in the housing..(you ever see the Trail of oil in a housing after tear down you will know what I mean).
You can spend a shitload of extra money on High name oils.frankly just not worth it.
..and "this guy"(myself) would rather have Full coverage of lube than a small spray through a hole in the housing..(you ever see the Trail of oil in a housing after tear down you will know what I mean).
"rotar dde" Is a rotor DUDE..most likely,along with his attempt at spelling (m)etering pump.
Which honestly didn't fair out for him since he was BANNED for Not following rules,so his post is deleted too Jim..
Some guys like to test the rules.Sorry,No soup.
Here's to Premix!
Which honestly didn't fair out for him since he was BANNED for Not following rules,so his post is deleted too Jim..
Some guys like to test the rules.Sorry,No soup.
Here's to Premix!

^Many...most of us, have used the "over-the-counter" two-cycle for years w/o issues. It's inexpensive and readily available at any chain parts store. It's great if you want to spend the extra for Indemitsu or Pettit's "Pro-tec R". Although I've never seen any credible longitudinal comparison of those oils against the standard TCW-3, it's likely they perform marginally better. How much better? Is it worth the extra cost, shipping and hassle for what you use the car for? You be the judge.
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Many...most of us, have used the "over-the-counter" two-cycle for years w/o issues. It's inexpensive and readily available at any chain parts store. It's great if you want to spend the extra for Indemitsu or Pettit's "Pro-tec R". Although I've never seen any credible longitudinal comparison of those oils against the standard TCW-3, it's likely they perform marginally better. How much better? Is it worth the extra cost, shipping and hassle for what you use the car for? You be the judge.
^Many...most of us, have used the "over-the-counter" two-cycle for years w/o issues. It's inexpensive and readily available at any chain parts store. It's great if you want to spend the extra for Indemitsu or Pettit's "Pro-tec R". Although I've never seen any credible longitudinal comparison of those oils against the standard TCW-3, it's likely they perform marginally better. How much better? Is it worth the extra cost, shipping and hassle for what you use the car for? You be the judge.
IMO, at least on my car, neither the OMP or pre-mixing is adequate by itself. But my reasoning is probably best left for another thread.
You're completely right its been design to leave it in but, they do fail (creating an internal problem $$$) mechanical more often than electric ones without you knowing they are working, so that's when pre-mixing comes into place, you need to be aware every time you fill-up. Is like taking your vitamins every day!
oil gas pre mix,
hi from ross in nanaimo b.c. new member. I removed my oil metering pump and mounted it in the engine area so that the electric pump will still connect to my s 5 engine harness. have only used half a tank of gas with the mixed fuel,but seams fine. 1 oz per gallon of yamalube marine two-stroke oil. I HOPE THIS IS OK it does say tc-w3 rl-83000. I thought it was a little costly though.
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