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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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whats up everyone, im a newbie with this. i own a rx7 '86 gxl n/a and i need help figuring out why it begins to bog every time i hit 4000 RPMs
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 08:01 PM
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4k rpms or 3800 look carefully check ur main ground wire to ur ecu. its under the upper intake manifold attached to a bolt on drivers side top
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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Fix your grounds:
http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/grounding.htm
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 02:36 PM
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it bogs at 4k the idle goes no further than that... what does it mean if it bogs at 3800? jus curious. thanx for the help
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FAA Fc
it bogs at 4k the idle goes no further than that... what does it mean if it bogs at 3800? jus curious. thanx for the help
It's probably happening at 3.8k.

From that link above:
In a car with a relatively modern fuel injection like the RX-7, the chief problem associated with poor grounds is that sensor readings can be effected. All the sensors in the RX-7 are ground referenced meaning that the ECU passes a current through them to ground essentially measuring the voltage drop across the sensor and using it to adjust engine parameters. If another resistance if introduced into the circuit this value changes and thus the ECU sees the wrong sensor reading. The ECT (Engine Coolant Temperature) sensor/water thermo sensor, IAT (Air Intake Temperature) sensor, TPS (Throttle Position Sensor), pressure/boost sensor, atmospheric pressure sensor and AFM (Air Flow Meter) are all essentially variable resistors with the ECU on one side and a ground on the other (this is a great simplification but good enough for our purposes). The O2 sensor and knock sensor both generate their own voltages but are still connected to ground on one side with the other wire feeding the ECU through a shielded conductor. These sensor errors can cause all kinds of drivability problems that range from the common 3800 RPM hesitation, bucking on decel, poor performance or even sporadic CEL (Check Engine Light) illumination
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 05:01 PM
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If cleaning up the existing grounds does not work, some have had success by splicing into the ECU ground wires at the ECU connectors, then running them to ring terminals nearby. If this is done, it is very important to be sure you're grounding the correct wires. The FSM fuel and emissions section & wiring diagrams will be needed.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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thanks everyone for your help i got the problem fixed i appreciate the advice
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