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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 11:09 PM
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Idle & emissions problems

Im gonna split this off into two sections so its easier to read. The car I got is a 87 GXL 5 speed

Idle: When the car is cold the idle will be very irratic. Its not going to 3000rpms to im guessing the AWS system isnt working. Also if I drive the car it will start bucking in the higher revs of some gears. I dont thing its a trans issue as it goes away when the motor is fully warmed up.

Emissions: Im failing my NJ inspection emissions test my alot. The car seems to be running very rich. There is also a "putting" sound from the exhaust and it leaks a little gas. Also when the car isnt warmed up white smoke will come out of the exhaust.

Things ive done already to the car: New NGK spark plugs and wires. Recently cleaned K&N air filter. Swapped out ECU for one from an 86 RX7

If anybody has any idea of whats going on please let my know.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 02:24 AM
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You need to do a compression test to rule out if things are OK internally.
White smoke sounds like a coolant leak internally and that means you got to rebuild the engine.A compression test will tell you this.

and Ya,leaking gas?..they shouldn't even allow you to test that car until you get that fixed.If they do they are not thinking about the safety of their shop or the implications if that car is being dyno tested,if it catches fire ON the dyno.(rolling test)
Even leaking oil would not allow you to dyno the darn thing.

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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 08:16 AM
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There is a small hole in the top of the radiator. So Im guessing thats where the coolant is leaking from?
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 09:15 AM
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There is a small hole in the top of the radiator. So Im guessing thats where the coolant is leaking from?
I dunno..is it?..

You'd have to check that too.
I know that any shop doesn't like fluid leaks or exhaust leaks of any sort for emissions testing.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 09:21 AM
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That sad part is ive taken it to a shop and they didnt even notice any of these issues...Do you thing the gas leak is caused by a bad damper or fuel injector?
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 10:58 AM
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That sad part is ive taken it to a shop and they didnt even notice any of these issues...Do you thing the gas leak is caused by a bad damper or fuel injector?
It is possible, but please start out with a compression test before more guesses are made, and possible money wasted
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 11:07 AM
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How do I preform a compression test?
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Thank you. Ill let you know the results of this test soon.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 04:33 PM
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So the compression test came back good, any idea on what i should do next? Would taking the BAC valve off and cleaning it do anything with my idle issue?
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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The engine will not go to 3000 rpm upon cold start up if the coolant temp is below 59 degrees or so thus this should not be an issue. Secondly, make sure th TPS's Green/Red wire reads 1 volt w/key to on after the engine has been warmed up as much as possible (20 to 30 minute drive should suffice).
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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The engine will not go to 3000 rpm upon cold start up if the coolant temp is below 59 degrees or so thus this should not be an issue. Secondly, make sure th TPS's Green/Red wire reads 1 volt w/key to on after the engine has been warmed up as much as possible (20 to 30 minute drive should suffice).
Where is this wire on the motor? Im pretty new to these cars so bare with me lol
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 11:19 PM
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Connected to the TPS. It has but three wires.
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 04:31 PM
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I'll try that out if I ever get a chance to drove it again lol. This snow is terrible up here.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 03:22 PM
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I really need that emissions problem resolved. I need to get the car inspected and it will fail the emissions test if i dont get it fixed
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 06:21 PM
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Idle & emissions problems-image-1209731559.jpgi also have the same issue ..not being able to pass emission and with this winter storm haven't been able to look at what can be wrong

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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by D2380
i also have the same issue ..not being able to pass emission and with this winter storm haven't been able to look at what can be wrong
Yup, but my cars reading where a little higher. They failed the same catigories though.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Would you be able to share a picture with results
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by D2380
Would you be able to share a picture with results
Yea ill post it at like 10ish when I take the car out again.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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I have been thinking about QQ plates..but then I can't use it as a daily
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 08:11 PM
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I have been thinking about QQ plates..but then I can't use it as a daily
Yea thats my problem
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:25 PM
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Would you be able to share a picture with results
Here they are!!


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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 09:45 AM
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How you making out with the emissions issue
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 10:00 AM
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Not good, still dont know the problem
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This may be a dumb question,but do you have the air pump hooked up? Do you have a cat on your car, if so how many? Did you verify your tps?
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