vl4bad

Hey guys,


So I'm finally going to get my rex now I have a few questions.
I'm going to see the car tomorrow night and supposedly the car is running 375HP, It has a Large Street Port, Full Racing Beat exhaust, Rebuilt Hybrid t3/t4 Turbocharger, all general maintenance stuff has been changed and replaced, It has a $600 sound system, and umm It uses the 'Pre-Mix' method when refueling with 93 Octane..Im going to spend 5 grand flat...Thats all I can think of off the top of my head, now what should I be looking for to make sure everything is in good condition and I'm not buying a lemon? Its a 1987 Mazda Rx7 Turbo II. here are a few pics. Thanks for everyones help!

dwb87

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Aaron Cake: How to Buy an '86-'92 RX-7


By reading the above statement, I assume you've already convinced yourself that you're going to over-pay for this car? With the provided information and by looking at the pictures, $5k seems too pricey for that car.

Does the seller have documentation of the dyno results? Can he prove that it puts down 375 HP? What does the body and interior look like?

vl4bad

He is stating he has all receipts and proper documents... There are other things i cant think of that he has done to he car supposedly... well I'm going tomorrow and going to see what happens.. I'm going to ask about the system, thing, but the guy is really not budging on the price and i can't find anything nice around locally. The body is in good condition The passenger headlight motor needs fixing and the interior just needs a bit of cleaning nothing damaged or missing except where the radio would go there isn't anything there...It has three Defi gauges, boost, temp, and far i think. ill put more pictures.

dwb87

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I really hope you're not going to pay $5k for that car. Don't jump into something just because it's the only thing around.

Aaron Cake

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What I'm seeing in the engine bay doesn't line up to that mods list. No way he is making almost 400 RWHP on the stock intercooler. Missing belt on the power steering pump, crappy foam air filter, no battery cover, etc.

I hate to make a generalization, but that car isn't worth $5K.

vl4bad

Thanks for your input's... Im going to check out the car tonight still if he doesn't budge on the price then I'm gonna ask about the system if nothing then I'm just gonna go home.. I really want a Clean FC TII with a large street port, I have 5k in hand right now, before when i had no cash or very little saved up i could find a dozen cars worth buying but now there is nothing. egh

Aaron Cake

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Specifically, why do you want a "large street port"?

RXSpeed16

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^+2500! (Once for each dollar you should subtract from his asking price)
Just some other observations:
-The only visible upgrade is the exhaust.
-Stock plastic intake duct, which won't fit on any turbo capable of 400hp.
-Anyone can print out a 375 hp dyno plot with the right "correction factor".
-Meticulously went out of his way to not accidentally clean anything when doing all of the upgrades.


On a side note: The majority of 7's I've seen are missing the battery cover. Apparently "remove and throw away battery cover" is step 1 when you take your car in for service.

Gringo Grande

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Do...Not...Buy...That...Car...For....5k.

Also...answer Aaron's question about the "Large" Streetport. This will be interesting (please note he is one of the more knowledgeable...and helpful...forum members in particular with 2nd Gens).

misterstyx69

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$2500 for the car ..and another 2500 for 3 gauges.heh. The Kick *** stereo is probably what makes the car feel like it has 375 HP!
ya right..I can sell you new parachute..used once,never opened..cheap!..Interested? (j/k!)
DON'T Buy if the guy is already being deceptive..
try looking on the forum classifieds? ..Guys on here at least sell something that is worth the price.

vl4bad

To be very honest with you I want a large street port because after a lot of reading ill be able to break the 400whp mark much easier than having it not ported, Im aiming for 450 by the summer time is my main goal for now. The motor will need to be rebuilt sometime anyway right? So why not when i get it.. Im not an expert with rotaries YET, but I want something reliable with good driveablitily and of course I want horrible mpg thats where its at lol j.k but you can understand what I'm trying to imply.



Don't worry I'm not I told the guy to have a horse bend him over.

Yes, that's what I'm going to do wait very patiently for a nice 2nd gen to pop up on the classifieds around my area...

dwb87

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lol - Good for you! You'll eventually find one...

vl4bad

I think i found one...

vl4bad

I think i found one...


White Turbo II
Mild Streetport under 30k. not sure of the mileage exactly.
weekend driven, never driven in the winter but was started once a week or every other week.
180k on the body one rust spot in front of the sunroof outside.
ok now the parts and shtuff,

Cone intake
FMIC; Custom FMIC piping, which I'm going to change its weird IMO.
lil baby turbo running 12 psi low, 16 psi high boost.
AFR gauge, Boost Gauge, oil temp gauge<-(i think)
750 primary, 1650 secondary fuel injectors
walbro fuel pump
new oil filter
Battery relocation (pretty sure)
Racing Beat Springs, forgot what brand the shocks are but were changed also.
Uses the premix method on the 3rd-4th gas fill-up.
It has o.k rims only bad thing it needs an alignment..
New tires
not sure about the exhaust pretty sure its changed too...

off the top of my head thats what i can remember.

Eduardo Santos

And... How much...?


And so it seems... I've also noticed that one, and it's not only on RX-7's, but in most modern cars that use such cover for the battery...


Agree!


Usually one of the best places to search for a used car, not only because we are on a community, but usually there's also a thread where we can see all that has happened and what has been done to the car.


Well, usually that kind of engine is able to last for 175 thousand miles if it's well maintained, so that depends on the mileague of the car you'll be buying.

By the way, do you know this page?
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/buy2.htm
It has lots of information on what to look for on a used TII. If you haven't read it already, I would recommend you on doing so.

Silvertongue62

Days later and i am still laughing. Now that was funny.

All jokes aside. It may be a good idea if you took someone with you when you look at these cars. I am sure there is a rx7club member near you. This way a buyer wont get away with selling you a 600 dollar system for the cost of a decent deck. BTW - $600 is not a system, its just a decent deck. My point is, if you don't know much about rx7's, find someone close to you to go with you. I am sure someone will be glad to help you.

I'm still laughing at the parachute. Funny.......

vl4bad

Yeah I read that stuff its a great reference I have used it a bit to help me out with this rx7, plus the guy thats selling it is from these forums so thats even better.

asking price is 4k..

I have 3700 cash right now so hopefully he can consider that the car will definitely be in good hands.

vl4bad

lmao yeah that is still funny. But I Have 2 people that are going to check the car out with me..One friend has a subie and my other friend has a X MR but i usually call it plastic cus I'm not such a eve person lol. But thanks for the heads up.

Silvertongue62

What i was saying is find one of the members here to go with you. Its fine to know about cars but these are rotarys. Different animal. These guys here know rx7 specific. I am rebuilding a car right now and i am depending on these guys. I know everything there is to know about american cars but these are different.

Now I am going to go find that barely used parachute that has never been opened and used once. God bless their soul. Lol.....

Silvertongue62

What part of NJ are you in?

I'm in NJ.

Richdip

5k is way to much honestly offer a good 4g

dwb87

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He already looked at the car...
Plus, you can tell by the photos that there is no way that car makes 375 HP. Even the $4k you told him to offer for the pictured vehicle is too much.

vl4bad

clifton


@dwb87 yeah man your right, now I know.

and AS USUAL I have bad luck. The rex i was sooooooooo close to getting is not for sale anymore which really stinks cus its was really nice! maybe he will change his mind for me haha ... But I guess the search is on again, not another few months till I find something worth my time to even look at, still forced to use public transportation which REALLY REALLY blows! (bus to train everyday then train to bus to get back home)

JerryLH3

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Uh, pardon me? The premix wasn't being added at every fill up? I hope he still had the MOP connected. Premix on every third or fourth fill up means the apex seals were only receiving lubricaton every third or fourth fill up - if the MOP was disconnected. Once that tank of gas was gone, so was the premix. If no MOP is present, premix must be done at every fill up.

Also, I'm not sure if having such a highly modified 20 year old car is a good idea for a DD. Yeah, it can be done, and may work out great for you, but I wouldn't do it.

vl4bad

well its not that hard to DD if you have the right setup, like obviously a bridgeport setup can't be a DD right because fuel efficiency, mpg and it meant for more like track stuff, the first FC that I was really close to getting had a 'large street port' so that was alright for DD just used a bit more gas than usual, but the second FC I realllllllly wanted but didn't get has a 'mild street port' so he would use the premix every 3rd fill up, I like the mild street port because it doesn't use up too much fuel and is easier to DD than other type of ports...Im not sure if the MOP was disconnected or not but the very nice guy does his stuff every 3rd fill up, and he tunes his car himself so I'm almost guaranteed he knows what he's doing considering it was his 5th rotary...