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Old 10-07-21, 08:11 PM
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Barn find , need help please

Got ahold of a I believe a 1993 Rx7 , but needed some info if anyone can help please. It montigo blue , body is ok with a dent in it , not to bad though. The only thing that concerns me is whe I popped the hood the turbos were missing , any help on what I’m getting myself into , what is a reasonable price for this vehicle as is. I can get the motor running without turbos , Always wanted one of these and now I have one that needs lot of Tlc
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See the turbos missing , how hard to track some down

Needs a wash

Montigo blue I believe
Old 10-08-21, 10:52 AM
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Budget $15k to get that back on the road and running/driving well. Assume it needs a rebuild in addition to the missing parts. As far as pricing goes, they are all over the place right now so try to get it as cheap as possible.
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welcome to the board.

congrats on getting the car. Montego Blue is my favorite OEM color.

Originally Posted by Mcloaded
what is a reasonable price for this vehicle as is.
why is this relevant if you already have the car?

i won't touch the pricing question because i simply don't know numbers on FDs these days. also, this is not the place for that. what i will say is you're probably looking at something between whatever a rolling shell goes for these days, and whatever a "poor-to-fair"-condition runner goes for.

as far as what you're in for goes, it depends on your goals, your budget and who will be doing the actual work. if you fill us in on those details, then someone can probably paint a clearer picture for you.
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Price

We’ll why I ask about the price is because I made an offer , but found out the Turbos was missing. .I haven’t actually purchased vehicle yet . But have the option to work on it and get it running and even buy it as is
.I wanted to see if the motor turns over , but without the turbos I’m somewhat lost , I have been in Maintenance for over 20 years and never really got into the rotary engines due to rarity and not many to work on now days . Plan was to get it running and I was going to purchase it , so my question really is if it’s worth restoring and would I get my money back, A rolling chassis price is what I would like to pay , but don’t know to much about these nowadays , except I always wanted one😁
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Goal is to get it running and drive this car , as far as money , just need to know what to budget the car for . Basically, price for purchase is the same if I get it running or as is . I can work on it to see what it really needs but need some advise is all

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I would NOT fix it up before buying it. Compression check, sure. But if you buy and put any parts on it then you just fixed up HIS car for free and he might sell it to someone else for $5k more. Doesn't matter how you know the guy, it can and does happen.

I'm not an FD guy but that car will need thousands in parts and labor to make it a nice weekend driver.
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Thanks everyone,but

We’ll I’m able to do whatever I want to the vehicle, running or not , turbos or not he’s set on a price , really the owner doesn’t even really care about it .. he doesn’t need money …… , so realistically what is a good offer to make on it , so I don lose my **** ? Someone stated 15k to get it going worse case senerio…(ie) motor needing rebuilt ….. don’t really plan on selling it for awhile if even at all . As Is I offered 6k , but I’m thinking he wants more towards 10k ….. there’s a lot of work to be done on it I know , but willing to outsource some of the work.
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~7 years ago, 6k would’ve been a fair offer for a fd shell without engine. Running fd’s we’re selling for 12k.

prices have shot out of control and running fd’s are 17-20k+ now. I’d say buy it as is. Offer 8k, but I think you’re right he wants 10k.

How long has he car been sitting? I just got a s4 t2 engine running after sitting for 13 years. I put marvel mystery oil in the leading spark plug holes, cranked it by hand over a few days to loosen up the seals. New oil, gas, top off coolant. In the end, the engine ran, but the oil control orings were dry rotted so I have to replace at least the soft seals.

I picked up another s4 t2 engine that sat for years, and moisture got in the rear rotor chamber and caused pitting on the middle and rear iron. Apex seals were stuck, used Marvel mystery oil and tapped on them with a wooden dowel through the exhaust ports to free them up. In the end, it needed a rebuild anyways.

My friends and I have learned if a rotary engine has been sitting for years, plan on a rebuild.

check out pineapple racing, lucky 7, Atkins rotary, rotary aviation for rebuild parts and prices.

without the turbos on, it’s more difficult to really get it running. You’d have to block off the oil and coolant feeds, and coolant return.

Here are the full service manuals.

good luck.

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If I were you... I'd look into the total cost to just get it to daily driver status, IMO it would be fair to offer 10K. You would be able to turn the car over at a profit even with a full engine rebuild at that point.
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Sorry didn’t post the link to the manuals.

http://foxed.ca/indexmobile.php?page=rx7manual
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Thanks

What’s a good repair shop in Georgia that could get it up and running someone reputable,
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You'll want a rotary specialist, not just any shop. Closest may be RotorSports Racing in Kannapolis NC. I have no experience with them, but they seem reputable.

As for the price, $10k seems fair for a roller in the condition shown in the picture (if it's a manual, $8-$9k for auto). You could luck out. Maybe they pulled the turbos to do a single swap and got overwhelmed and parked it (for good ). If so, the engine may be ok, but if it's original, it;s probably close to needing a rebuild. Worst case, you need a new engine/rebuild regardless. That shouldn't be a deal breaker at $10k if the rest of the car is in decent shape (good interior/no rust)

If you have some mechanical ability, you could easily get this running yourself by going back to stock. A lot of what's missing is readily available used for not much money (a lot of people pull this stuff when "modding"). Only exceptions would be an engine (if current one is trash), the A/C if that was pulled and steering rack if they tried to convert it to unassisted.

Good luck
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Thanks everyone

Yes this is an Automatic and apparently the engine has been worked at some time , …was told it dyno at close to 400 hp .. it’s been parked out of the weather for 13 years … I do know the place it was in has mice and rats . I do have mechanical abilities as I’m an Airframe and power plant technician for over 20 years , work a lot of cars in my time , but never ever worked on a rotary , trying to be smart about this and find someone to get it road worthy , and I could keep the maintenance up on it
Probably want to redo the engine .. Any. Shops someone can recommend that specialize in rotaries that I can trust
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i can't help you with specifics, but i can point you toward some rotorheads that i think are in the (general) ATL area. i don't know how close that it to where you are, but i'm sure you can figure something out if you find someone through them.

check out these threads:
https://www.rx7club.com/se-rx-7-foru...eeting-675955/

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-gen-gene...ad%5D-1099646/

try reaching out to them and see if they can help you out. if i'm not mistaken, i think Yellowgslse used to have an FD, so maybe start with him.
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Is that a Canadian or US VIN number?

If the interior is in very good condition the sum of the interior parts could be over $5000 alone. If the interior is trashed, not so much.

I have been picking up deleted turbos for about $200 a piece. Seek and you shall find. If you find one ask if it was working when removed.

Good enough for your initial purpose, I'd bet.

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